Formula One's governing body has announced that it has come to a settlement with Scuderia Ferrari after investigations into its 2019 power unit, considered the most powered in F1.
Mexico doesn't appear to be that power sensitive, last year we had a RB 1-2 in quali using the Renault PU.f1rules wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 14:07Question: with the demands of the mexico circuit and the thin air limitations, will that maybe help others gain insight to ferraris advantage, i mean If its not ice/combustion related, but of electrical and harvesting nature their advantage could potentially grow in mexico??
if so im sure theyll hide though, because right now the others dont have a clue and are shooting in the dark
There is no cheating.. Ferrari Ers is the same of the 2018. The 2019 upgrade is ICE related, and as Herny said, in this pu era every upgrade of a part is a boost for the other parts of the pu too.djones wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 14:11Yes, that stood out to me too as I was expecting to read about that, not the intercooler.
Maybe its because teams know the physical limits of that area and therefore know it must be some sort of 'cheating' elsewhere that is not monitored with sensors etc.
P.s. If I was Ferrari I would turn the engine heavily down for the rest of the season to stop people protesting. Then use the advantage again at the start of next year to make the most benefit from it before it is banned.
What advantage it would have if it was banned?djones wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 14:11Yes, that stood out to me too as I was expecting to read about that, not the intercooler.
Maybe its because teams know the physical limits of that area and therefore know it must be some sort of 'cheating' elsewhere that is not monitored with sensors etc.
P.s. If I was Ferrari I would turn the engine heavily down for the rest of the season to stop people protesting. Then use the advantage again at the start of next year to make the most benefit from it before it is banned.
Ferrari's PU advantage seems to drive the other teams crazy as they are seeking clarifications on completely different aspects of the PU! I believe they cannot figure it out and they are questioning in order to find where the advantage comes from! Since last year they questioned the batteries, oil use, now the intercooler and the recovery system!
THIS!.. they protest only to find out where they have to upgrade their concepts. And FIA just 1 time aswered positively (the twin battery of 2018) but when Ferrari protested for the spoil of their Tm technology, Fia just said who was the wistleblower: Sassi and Allison from Mercedes... (but the protest was made by FI.. so not by AMG in first person but by their pu costumer.. really fairNonserviam85 wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 15:23Ferrari's PU advantage seems to drive the other teams crazy as they are seeking clarifications on completely different aspects of the PU! I believe they cannot figure it out and they are questioning in order to find where the advantage comes from! Since last year they questioned the batteries, oil use, now the intercooler and the recovery system!
) And Mercedes was really disappointed by that.
No one is saying they are. I think people are more referring to Ferrari doing something that could be seen as exploiting a loop in the regulations or an area that is not actively monitored. Think oil burning. It wasnt illegal, but it was an exploit, an area that allowed teams to exploit something that wasnt intended. Clearly they are doing something clever, but i too am of the opinion it must be something that is perhaps not intended and if teams figure it out, or ask the right questions to the FIA, something that might get closed/banned pretty quickly if it is indeed being done.
More than 1 person here said cheating.. instead of "trick"! And no, oil burning was not illegal back in 2014.. but only after the rule that makes illegal to reuse the exaust gas again in the compressor (what every turbo engine on real cars do... to reduce pollution). All was as inteded but someone got a gain and others not (renaultPhil wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 16:16No one is saying they are. I think people are more referring to Ferrari doing something that could be seen as exploiting a loop in the regulations or an area that is not actively monitored. Think oil burning. It wasnt illegal, but it was an exploit, an area that allowed teams to exploit something that wasnt intended. Clearly they are doing something clever, but i too am of the opinion it must be something that is perhaps not intended and if teams figure it out, or ask the right questions to the FIA, something that might get closed/banned pretty quickly if it is indeed being done.
).. and the only Pu that cant afford the new oil regulation (0,6l per 300km) was the mercedes Pu from Monza 2017 till the end of the yaer Would a temporary leak of coolant by the intercooler, for example when the intercooler circulator pump is set to a high pressure level. Be seen as incidental?“ 5.14 Engine intake air :
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With the exception of incidental leakage through joints or cooling ducts in the inlet system....
Probably, but the FIA would immediately demand that it be fixed.
