2019 Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 15-17 November

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Pity he missed his Champagne moment. Same as Alonso back in the day... in the same venue! A good omen?!
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I have to say that is the most minimal of contact. Strange how that cause a puncture, and a tyre completely getting the rim.
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turbof1 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:13
Shoutout to everyone, or moooosttt of you anyway :mrgreen: , to keep things cool and collected.

We did expect things to be far worse after such a rollercoaster of a race :mrgreen:
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turbof1 wrote:
I have to say that is the most minimal of contact. Strange how that cause a puncture, and a tyre completely getting the rim.
2 tyres running with 300klms touched with opposite rotations. Im happy that the suspension and all the side of the behind wheel didn't destroyed flying high.
Just imagine the forces on this, this hot gum rubber suddenly from 600klm to a halt..

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turbof1 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:17
I have to say that is the most minimal of contact. Strange how that cause a puncture, and a tyre completely getting the rim.
Considering the speed, i kind of expected punctures.

Given the last two races, Ferrari might need to look into beefing up their suspension.
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bluechris wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:23
turbof1 wrote:
I have to say that is the most minimal of contact. Strange how that cause a puncture, and a tyre completely getting the rim.
2 tyres running with 300klms touched with opposite rotations. Im happy that the suspension and all the side of the behind wheel didn't destroyed flying high.
Just imagine the forces on this, this hot gum rubber suddenly from 600klm to a halt..
Good point, thanks!
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In hindsight looking back Mercedes were foolish to keep Hamilton out at the end. We saw how easy Verstappen passed Hamilton after the first stops so there's no way in hell he could have held him off.

James Vowles surely has to go, one swallow does not make a summer for him IMO.

The team better be working on a new engine for next season or else they are going to be swallowed up from the get go.

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for those interested in post race interview

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Wass85 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:30
In hindsight looking back Mercedes were foolish to keep Hamilton out at the end. We saw how easy Verstappen passed Hamilton after the first stops so there's no way in hell he could have held him off.

James Vowles surely has to go, one swallow does not make a summer for him IMO.

The team better be working on a new engine for next season or else they are going to be swallowed up from the get go.
(discounting the collision) what was to lose? one place either way. I see it as the best call with the knowledge they had.
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turbof1 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:13
Shoutout to everyone, or moooosttt of you anyway :mrgreen: , to keep things cool and collected.

We did expect things to be far worse after such a rollercoaster of a race :mrgreen:
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Big Tea wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:33
Wass85 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:30
In hindsight looking back Mercedes were foolish to keep Hamilton out at the end. We saw how easy Verstappen passed Hamilton after the first stops so there's no way in hell he could have held him off.

James Vowles surely has to go, one swallow does not make a summer for him IMO.

The team better be working on a new engine for next season or else they are going to be swallowed up from the get go.
(discounting the collision) what was to lose? one place either way. I see it as the best call with the knowledge they had.
i found the call "do the opposite of Verstappen" under SC ..... a bit strange he had nothing to win by staying out, he knew from the get go Verstappen would go for Soft and willl be right behind him at the restart..... why not taking the risk and go in for a new (used) set of Softs aswell and push to the limit

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I think 5 sec to Ham is BS.

But whatever, that makes KIMI THE 4TH!!! :D

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Big Tea wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:33
Wass85 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:30
In hindsight looking back Mercedes were foolish to keep Hamilton out at the end. We saw how easy Verstappen passed Hamilton after the first stops so there's no way in hell he could have held him off.

James Vowles surely has to go, one swallow does not make a summer for him IMO.

The team better be working on a new engine for next season or else they are going to be swallowed up from the get go.
(discounting the collision) what was to lose? one place either way. I see it as the best call with the knowledge they had.
That's what I thought at first but it's pretty obvious it was the wrong call for these reasons.

1. Hamilton couldn't hold Verstappen off on tyres of a similar age after the first stop, how was he expected to fend him off with faster and fresher tyres?

2. Didn't the team realise that during a safety car the pack is bunched up, this means that you have fast cars on your gearbox with fresh tyres.

3. The Mercedes was very slow up the hill, Mercedes knew this and surely understood they would be a sitting duck once others have DRS.

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Wass85 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:40
Big Tea wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:33
Wass85 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:30
In hindsight looking back Mercedes were foolish to keep Hamilton out at the end. We saw how easy Verstappen passed Hamilton after the first stops so there's no way in hell he could have held him off.

James Vowles surely has to go, one swallow does not make a summer for him IMO.

The team better be working on a new engine for next season or else they are going to be swallowed up from the get go.
(discounting the collision) what was to lose? one place either way. I see it as the best call with the knowledge they had.
That's what I thought at first but it's pretty obvious it was the wrong call for these reasons.

1. Hamilton couldn't hold Verstappen off on tyres of a similar age after the first stop, how was he expected to fend him off with faster and fresher tyres?

2. Didn't the team realise that during a safety car the pack is bunched up, this means that you have fast cars on your gearbox with fresh tyres.

3. The Mercedes was very slow up the hill, Mercedes knew this and surely understood they would be a sitting duck once others have DRS.
i loved the way Verstappen handled the SC restart :lol:

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Capharol wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:43
Wass85 wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:40
Big Tea wrote:
17 Nov 2019, 23:33


(discounting the collision) what was to lose? one place either way. I see it as the best call with the knowledge they had.
That's what I thought at first but it's pretty obvious it was the wrong call for these reasons.

1. Hamilton couldn't hold Verstappen off on tyres of a similar age after the first stop, how was he expected to fend him off with faster and fresher tyres?

2. Didn't the team realise that during a safety car the pack is bunched up, this means that you have fast cars on your gearbox with fresh tyres.

3. The Mercedes was very slow up the hill, Mercedes knew this and surely understood they would be a sitting duck once others have DRS.
i loved the way Verstappen handled the SC restart :lol:
Yes and that's exactly what Hamilton should have done, leave it to the last second to stop Max getting a tow.

I've noticed this for years but Lewis is terrible at restarts, even more so when on the attack. It's an area he undoubtedly could improve on.

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