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The Speculation Topic for the MCL35 is now opened: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=28641
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Some of the last pictures of MCL34...

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Nice and beautiful car
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Xero wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:37 am
Ground Effect wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:23 pm
Do we think current front wing will be maintained?
Going by the wording I would suggest it will be different, my guess, towards Red Bull/Mercedes with a more loaded outboard. McLaren will be chasing more peak downforce at the front end, let's just hope they don't compromise it too much with added drag. The differences may be more subtle than we expect though.
I think drag is only secondary in concern to the instability outboard loaded FW induces.; one of the reasons many favoured tapered configuration.

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M840TR wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:01 pm
Xero wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:37 am
Ground Effect wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:23 pm
Do we think current front wing will be maintained?
Going by the wording I would suggest it will be different, my guess, towards Red Bull/Mercedes with a more loaded outboard. McLaren will be chasing more peak downforce at the front end, let's just hope they don't compromise it too much with added drag. The differences may be more subtle than we expect though.
I think drag is only secondary in concern to the instability outboard loaded FW induces.; one of the reasons many favoured tapered configuration.
I agree. In terms of outright performance through, it's no surprise to see Mercedes and Red Bull making up a lot of time over the rest where downforce is required. The tapered solution is clearly more efficient and helping stability, but at the cost of peak downforce. I believe McLaren and Ferrari are aware of it's limitations, and are prepared to sacrifice next season for the greater good.

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Xero wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:54 pm
M840TR wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:01 pm
Xero wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:37 am


Going by the wording I would suggest it will be different, my guess, towards Red Bull/Mercedes with a more loaded outboard. McLaren will be chasing more peak downforce at the front end, let's just hope they don't compromise it too much with added drag. The differences may be more subtle than we expect though.
I think drag is only secondary in concern to the instability outboard loaded FW induces.; one of the reasons many favoured tapered configuration.
I agree. In terms of outright performance through, it's no surprise to see Mercedes and Red Bull making up a lot of time over the rest where downforce is required. The tapered solution is clearly more efficient and helping stability, but at the cost of peak downforce. I believe McLaren and Ferrari are aware of it's limitations, and are prepared to sacrifice next season for the greater good.
But both Mercedes and Red bull have moved towards the tapered configuration. Maybe striking the right balance between the two is what's required.

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M840TR wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:11 pm
Xero wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:54 pm
M840TR wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:01 pm


I think drag is only secondary in concern to the instability outboard loaded FW induces.; one of the reasons many favoured tapered configuration.
I agree. In terms of outright performance through, it's no surprise to see Mercedes and Red Bull making up a lot of time over the rest where downforce is required. The tapered solution is clearly more efficient and helping stability, but at the cost of peak downforce. I believe McLaren and Ferrari are aware of it's limitations, and are prepared to sacrifice next season for the greater good.
But both Mercedes and Red bull have moved towards the tapered configuration. Maybe striking the right balance between the two is what's required.
I think so, yes. When I say tapered I mean the more extreme solutions, with little loading on the outboard. Red Bull and Merc seem to have that balance.

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From Alex Sala... Note the protection in the rear brake vents to prevent the issues with visors/debris from blocking it:

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Great article showing the development path of this years car

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