Seven Formula One teams have demanded clarity and more information about the private agreement that was announced by the FIA and Scuderia Ferrari over their power unit investigation.
Well said.
I wonder whether Ferraris tactics when confronted with 2.7 might’ve been to decline to participate further and exercise their right to not self-incriminate. The FIA might have their suspicions but without corroboration one way or the other from Ferrari, they’d be completely stuck.snowy wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 11:43Article 2.7Article 2.7: It is the duty of each competitor to satisfy the FIA technical delegate and the stewards that his automobile complies with these regulations in their entirety at all times during an Event."
Even if they can't prove anything wrong, there must have been reasonable doubt. If there is reasonable doubt there is no reason for the absurd timing of the announcement of an agreement and a settlement, the details of which are cloaked in secrecy!
Surely all Ferrari had to prove and all the FIA had to ask is how they got the extra power from their engine that the FIA had observed and the other teams had measured via GPS, noise, and speed comparisons, etc, etc.
The whole thing has been handled in a completely absurd and amateur way and created an existential crisis!
+1nzjrs wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 17:32They repeat things because they don't read anything anyone writes. Even if they were arguing in good faith, the speed of replies means its certain noone is thinking hard before writing. Anyways, it's a good way to find people to add to the ignore list.Capharol wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 17:26true but its just funny how all ran in circles chasing their own tails, which is just dumb....Unc1eM0nty wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 17:17
I completely agree, it’s juvenile and idiotic.
But this is an internet forum, that’s its Raison d'etre
we all know the position of the "Non-Ferarri-Fans" and the "Ferrari-Fans" so why repeating things on page 34 that has been said on page 5 already....
but as said i amuse myself with this little "cat fight"
That only applies to the criminal courts, not sporting or civil courts, as far as I am aware.214270 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 17:24I wonder whether Ferraris tactics when confronted with 2.7 might’ve been to decline to participate further and exercise their right to not self-incriminate.snowy wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 11:43Article 2.7Article 2.7: It is the duty of each competitor to satisfy the FIA technical delegate and the stewards that his automobile complies with these regulations in their entirety at all times during an Event."
Even if they can't prove anything wrong, there must have been reasonable doubt. If there is reasonable doubt there is no reason for the absurd timing of the announcement of an agreement and a settlement, the details of which are cloaked in secrecy!
Surely all Ferrari had to prove and all the FIA had to ask is how they got the extra power from their engine that the FIA had observed and the other teams had measured via GPS, noise, and speed comparisons, etc, etc.
The whole thing has been handled in a completely absurd and amateur way and created an existential crisis!
Ferrari will be damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Well whatever sporting regs are in place they can’t usurp the laws of the land.Pyrone89 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 17:44That only applies to the criminal courts, not sporting or civil courts, as far as I am aware.214270 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 17:24I wonder whether Ferraris tactics when confronted with 2.7 might’ve been to decline to participate further and exercise their right to not self-incriminate.snowy wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 11:43Article 2.7
Even if they can't prove anything wrong, there must have been reasonable doubt. If there is reasonable doubt there is no reason for the absurd timing of the announcement of an agreement and a settlement, the details of which are cloaked in secrecy!
Surely all Ferrari had to prove and all the FIA had to ask is how they got the extra power from their engine that the FIA had observed and the other teams had measured via GPS, noise, and speed comparisons, etc, etc.
The whole thing has been handled in a completely absurd and amateur way and created an existential crisis!
And if the pace is good: Look at Binotto, although he looks like a bespectacled nerd-botanist, but he is a formidable mafiozo, even the FIA affraid of him!PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 18:03Ferrari will be damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Good pace: See! They are still cheating!
Bad pace: See! They can't cheat anymore!
Bernie weighing in is him saying "it wouldn't have happened if Liberty hadn't dumped me"RZS10 wrote: ↑06 Mar 2020, 17:12It's the 'quarantine' thread with disabled voting afterall
Regarding the Marko quote in which he calls the FIA corrupt, the english translation left out one sentence which was
"We will no longer put up with this."
Ecclestone is weighing in on the issue:
"The teams have to sue the FIA. It's about millions, which i believe they are due. If Ferrari was clean and innocent, why would they agree to a deal with Jean Todt? To me this alone looks like admission of guilt.
There have been many conflicts in my time, but the teams, the FIA and I always managed to find solutions for the best of the sport, but it's too late for that now."
When you are accused of cheating and, despite having a bottomless well of money to fight back and a vested interest in having a spotless reputation, you accept a punishment?
