2020 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, 3-5 July

[JordanMugen]

I don’t even know whether the rules allow HAM to protest, but silence/quietly moving on from the incident doesn’t solve the issue for another day.

If the incident was between Albon and Stroll for 10th place and Stroll received +5 sceonds, it would not have generated 10 pages of chat of how Stroll was unfairly penalised for a mere racing incident. The whole 'debate' is much ado about nothing.

[SiLo]

I don’t even know whether the rules allow HAM to protest, but silence/quietly moving on from the incident doesn’t solve the issue for another day.

If the incident was between Albon and Stroll for 10th place and Stroll received +5 sceonds, it would not have generated 10 pages of chat of how Stroll was unfairly penalised for a mere racing incident. The whole 'debate' is much ado about nothing.

Pretty much. It just happened to be one of the new poster boys (Lando, Leclerc, Albon, Russell) and Hamilton, who has plenty of people that dislike him.

Impressed with the pace of the Racing Point, hope they can recreate this at the weekend again.

[Andres125sx]

IMO Lewis didn't deserve that penalty, Albon tried a risky pass at the outside, one of those which if succeed he will be seen as a big balls racer, but if don't...

Maybe Lewis could have done something to prevent the collision, but even if that's true (and I'm not saying it is) previous stewards decisions state no driver need to leave space at his outside at the exit of a corner, so...


Awesome race for McLaren, 2nd in the WCC looks unreal!!

[Jolle]

I think the stewards were as messy as some of the drivers. Not knowing when to put their stamp on something and when to let it go.

Also: there was a (former) RedBull driver as driver steward, but I assume he would be clever enough not to let that influence him.

[Mchamilton]

Bottas seems like a new man. Divorced, new woman in his life, renewed energy. If he can substantially raise his game and compete with Hamilton hard, race in and race out, as he did today, it could be for a somewhat interesting season in terms of seeing which Mercedes driver takes the championship.

It would be good if Bottas really does hold off Hamilton this season. But this was the same situation after first race last year! Bottas 2.0 turned out to be a dud last year. This is Austria, which is Hamilton's bogey circuit. Since it's return, anyone who wins the Austrian GP, doesn't win the WDC championship. We already saw Bottas losing tyre life when Hamilton pulled out almost 5 seconds off from his lead in a handful of laps. Bottas still cannot manage tyres in races and with additional downforce this year, the tyres (same as last year) are going to be even more loaded in races causing more wear. If not for the early Penalty, SC drama, Bottas would have been in serious trouble in the race.

Luck was on his side this weekend. His mistake triggered the situation that brought penalty for Hamilton in qualifying. Mercedes made an error in judgement for not having changed the tyres in the SC situation and RB pulled a fast one with Albon that created a situation where Albon and Hamilton incident occurred. If Hamilton would have not defended Albon, Bottas would have lost the race. So, not just that the incident happened, but once again Hamilton got a penalty and saved the race for Bottas with Albon's elimination.

Lewis was consistently 3/10ths slower through/out of turn 3 when behind Bottas, which was also the corner he lost out in through quali.
so once Lewis makes that adjustment, Bottas will have no chance this weekend. He was pretty damn poor on race pace before they got the kerb warnings.

[turbof1]

Bottas seems like a new man. Divorced, new woman in his life, renewed energy. If he can substantially raise his game and compete with Hamilton hard, race in and race out, as he did today, it could be for a somewhat interesting season in terms of seeing which Mercedes driver takes the championship.

It would be good if Bottas really does hold off Hamilton this season. But this was the same situation after first race last year! Bottas 2.0 turned out to be a dud last year. This is Austria, which is Hamilton's bogey circuit. Since it's return, anyone who wins the Austrian GP, doesn't win the WDC championship. We already saw Bottas losing tyre life when Hamilton pulled out almost 5 seconds off from his lead in a handful of laps. Bottas still cannot manage tyres in races and with additional downforce this year, the tyres (same as last year) are going to be even more loaded in races causing more wear. If not for the early Penalty, SC drama, Bottas would have been in serious trouble in the race.

Luck was on his side this weekend. His mistake triggered the situation that brought penalty for Hamilton in qualifying. Mercedes made an error in judgement for not having changed the tyres in the SC situation and RB pulled a fast one with Albon that created a situation where Albon and Hamilton incident occurred. If Hamilton would have not defended Albon, Bottas would have lost the race. So, not just that the incident happened, but once again Hamilton got a penalty and saved the race for Bottas with Albon's elimination.

Lewis was consistently 3/10ths slower through/out of turn 3 when behind Bottas, which was also the corner he lost out in through quali.
so once Lewis makes that adjustment, Bottas will have no chance this weekend. He was pretty damn poor on race pace before they got the kerb warnings.

That could also be a setup difference, which might have implications, good oe bad, for the rest of the circuit. So chances are it isn't just about changing the approach on one corner.

[Wouter]

For the person who creates the new race topic:

Please put the following in the title:

Formula 1 Pirelli GP of Steiermark / Lewis Hamilton, 10-12 July

Because of only/all the reactions here of Lewis, the other 19 drivers do not participate apparently.

[Just_a_fan]

For the person who creates the new race topic:

Please put the following in the title:

Formula 1 Pirelli GP of Steiermark / Lewis Hamilton, 10-12 July

Because of only/all the reactions here of Lewis, the other 19 drivers do not participate.

We're only talking about Hamilton because the beloved Max didn't last long enough to do anything controversial. Next race will no doubt be different.

[Wouter]

For the person who creates the new race topic:

Please put the following in the title:

Formula 1 Pirelli GP of Steiermark / Lewis Hamilton, 10-12 July

Because of only/all the reactions here of Lewis, the other 19 drivers do not participate.

We're only talking about Hamilton because the beloved Max didn't last long enough to do anything controversial. Next race will no doubt be different.

And what about Norris, Leclerc, Sainz, Kvyat, Kimi, Vettel? There was so much action!
No, it is here always only about Hamilton.

[Gothrek]

Just saw the highlight, can anybody explain to me why Leclerc is getting so much praise? Besides a lucky pitstop, he didnt seem to do much special?

Well, Vettel is back in 11th or whatever with the same car.

Ok, so it's the anti-Vettel brigade and pure luck on Leclerc his end. Thx for confirming.

On a different note. That Ferrari really seemed unstable throughout.

[Moore77]

What was Racing Point possibly thinking at the SC by not giving a tyre change for Perez? Absolute dumb move. With the car they have, they are wasting these golden opportunities by not showing good presence of mind. A race win, clearly thrown away.

[NathanOlder]

I think the stewards were as messy as some of the drivers. Not knowing when to put their stamp on something and when to let it go.

Also: there was a (former) RedBull driver as driver steward, but I assume he would be clever enough not to let that influence him.

Which driver was that out of interest ?

[Jolle]

I think the stewards were as messy as some of the drivers. Not knowing when to put their stamp on something and when to let it go.

Also: there was a (former) RedBull driver as driver steward, but I assume he would be clever enough not to let that influence him.

Which driver was that out of interest ?

Vitantonio Liuzzi

[3jawchuck]

I think the stewards were as messy as some of the drivers. Not knowing when to put their stamp on something and when to let it go.

Also: there was a (former) RedBull driver as driver steward, but I assume he would be clever enough not to let that influence him.

Which driver was that out of interest ?

Vitantonio Liuzzi

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... review.pdf

[Wouter]

Liuzzi drove four races as second driver for Red Bull Racing in 2005,
2006 as second driver for the new team of Toro Rosso.