[ 2020 ] AMG Mercedes F1 Team - Mercedes

[erudite450]

Bottas: "We have one push no?"
"We do but we agreed not to use it against each other"
Bottas: "I never heard of that"

How about Mercedes telling Hamilton to stay off the kerbs in Spielberg? A clear message not to race Bottas. I don't expect an answer from you as you only pick and choose the scenarios that suit your fictional narrative.

[Wass85]

Bottas: "We have one push no?"
"We do but we agreed not to use it against each other"
Bottas: "I never heard of that"

How about Mercedes telling Hamilton to stay off the kerbs in Spielberg? A clear message not to race Bottas. I don't expect an answer from you as you only pick and choose the scenarios that suit your fictional narrative.

Tbf both drivers were told that unless you're saying they were making a problem up?

Another masterclass from the team today, I thought they were going to get swamped at the start but the delta in top speed wasn't as big as I feared.

[erudite450]

Bottas: "We have one push no?"
"We do but we agreed not to use it against each other"
Bottas: "I never heard of that"

How about Mercedes telling Hamilton to stay off the kerbs in Spielberg? A clear message not to race Bottas. I don't expect an answer from you as you only pick and choose the scenarios that suit your fictional narrative.

Tbf both drivers were told that unless you're saying they were making a problem up?

Another masterclass from the team today, I thought they were going to get swamped at the start but the delta in top speed wasn't as big as I feared.

Just as they must have told Hamilton not to use the push button to race Bottas in this race. Valtteri saying that's not the case is just him trying to make himself feel better.

[Unf]

Bottas: "We have one push no?"
"We do but we agreed not to use it against each other"
Bottas: "I never heard of that"

How about Mercedes telling Hamilton to stay off the kerbs in Spielberg? A clear message not to race Bottas. I don't expect an answer from you as you only pick and choose the scenarios that suit your fictional narrative.

They both being said that stay away from cerbs. Both, dude.
But I have a question - how is it possible that Bottas hasn't ever heard about this inner-team rule, hugh? How?!

[e30ernest]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15178 ... o-exchange

But of course, it has to be more fantastical than that right?

[dans79]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15178 ... o-exchange

But of course, it has to be more fantastical than that right?

Sounds about right. Merc didn't get to where they are now, by ignoring the competition behind. For example,


For example, I'm pretty sure Red bull put albon on the mediums today for his second stint, to ensure he stayed within the Mercedes pit window for as long as possible thus forcing them into a one-stop strategy, or requiring them to overtake him on track.

[Jolle]

Where is all this almost hatred towards Bottas coming from? I think he’s a perfect teammate for Hamilton. And Hamilton, after all the rivals he had next to him in the same car. With his status consistency and accomplishments he finally doesn’t need to look over his shoulder in the team.

[Just_a_fan]

Where is all this almost hatred towards Bottas coming from? I think he’s a perfect teammate for Hamilton. And Hamilton, after all the rivals he had next to him in the same car. With his status consistency and accomplishments he finally doesn’t need to look over his shoulder in the team.

In order for people to denigrate Hamilton's performance, they first have to make Bottas look rubbish, a lapdog etc.

[Moore77]

Where is all this almost hatred towards Bottas coming from? I think he’s a perfect teammate for Hamilton. And Hamilton, after all the rivals he had next to him in the same car. With his status consistency and accomplishments he finally doesn’t need to look over his shoulder in the team.

In order for people to denigrate Hamilton's performance, they first have to make Bottas look rubbish, a lapdog etc.

In order for people to glorify Hamilton's performance, they first have to make Bottas look good, an equal competitor etc.

The guy got outqualified by half a second in Belgium, by more than a second in a wet Styrian GP. Can't keep up with Hamilton once he is ahead. Fluffs the starts, despite having a comfortable second position to then lose two GPs. Despite having a dominant car, is still behind Verstappen.

[Just_a_fan]

Where is all this almost hatred towards Bottas coming from? I think he’s a perfect teammate for Hamilton. And Hamilton, after all the rivals he had next to him in the same car. With his status consistency and accomplishments he finally doesn’t need to look over his shoulder in the team.

In order for people to denigrate Hamilton's performance, they first have to make Bottas look rubbish, a lapdog etc.

In order for people to glorify Hamilton's performance, they first have to make Bottas look good, an equal competitor etc.

The guy has beaten three World Champions in the same car. No one here needs to try to glorify his performances.

[Moore77]

In order for people to denigrate Hamilton's performance, they first have to make Bottas look rubbish, a lapdog etc.

In order for people to glorify Hamilton's performance, they first have to make Bottas look good, an equal competitor etc.

The guy has beaten three World Champions in the same car. No one here needs to try to glorify his performances.

Is there even an argument about Hamilton's potential here? People can get out of that hole. The word is about why Bottas is a lapdog and saying, Bottas is a competitive team mate to further enhance Hamilton's ALREADY ESTABLISHED potential. By which, Hamilton's victories and titles doesn't carry the same significance or just cake walk compared to that of 2008 or 2014/17.

[Jolle]

Looking at the team and combination of Hamilton/Bottas is such an one dimensional way, is a bit silly. Hamilton thrives in a team that is build with trust, from all sides. Bottas, Hamilton and the team have clearly a working relation that they work as a big team and then maximise the team result. No hidden agendas, no backstabbing, no witholding information, no games, etc.

Hamilton thrives because of Bottas, not despite him. You see the same thing at RedBull at the moment, Verstappen and Albon both working on improving the car. I expect that we'll see the same thing at Ferrari next year.

That both Hamilton and Verstappen have a clear advantage on track over their teammates makes this team dynamic natural.

A good way to measure it might be team mate crashes. Vettel and Leclerc had a few now, so did Verstappen and Ricciardo and Hamilton Rosberg, Vettel Webber and Hamilton and Button even. I can't see Hamilton and Bottas crashing, despite they are wheel to wheel trough the first corner almost every weekend.

[Moore77]

Looking at the team and combination of Hamilton/Bottas is such an one dimensional way, is a bit silly. Hamilton thrives in a team that is build with trust, from all sides. Bottas, Hamilton and the team have clearly a working relation that they work as a big team and then maximise the team result. No hidden agendas, no backstabbing, no witholding information, no games, etc.

Hamilton thrives because of Bottas, not despite him. You see the same thing at RedBull at the moment, Verstappen and Albon both working on improving the car. I expect that we'll see the same thing at Ferrari next year.

That both Hamilton and Verstappen have a clear advantage on track over their teammates makes this team dynamic natural.

A good way to measure it might be team mate crashes. Vettel and Leclerc had a few now, so did Verstappen and Ricciardo and Hamilton Rosberg, Vettel Webber and Hamilton and Button even. I can't see Hamilton and Bottas crashing, despite they are wheel to wheel trough the first corner almost every weekend.

So you agree having a good, slow team mate helps the better driver and the team! That's all others are saying.

[Jolle]

Looking at the team and combination of Hamilton/Bottas is such an one dimensional way, is a bit silly. Hamilton thrives in a team that is build with trust, from all sides. Bottas, Hamilton and the team have clearly a working relation that they work as a big team and then maximise the team result. No hidden agendas, no backstabbing, no witholding information, no games, etc.

Hamilton thrives because of Bottas, not despite him. You see the same thing at RedBull at the moment, Verstappen and Albon both working on improving the car. I expect that we'll see the same thing at Ferrari next year.

That both Hamilton and Verstappen have a clear advantage on track over their teammates makes this team dynamic natural.

A good way to measure it might be team mate crashes. Vettel and Leclerc had a few now, so did Verstappen and Ricciardo and Hamilton Rosberg, Vettel Webber and Hamilton and Button even. I can't see Hamilton and Bottas crashing, despite they are wheel to wheel trough the first corner almost every weekend.

So you agree having a good, slow team mate helps the better driver and the team! That's all others are saying.

No, he performs even better without inner team rivalries. If you look at pure speed, Bottas and Rosberg are quite comparable. Rosberg just played every trick in the book to put Hamilton off balance, making the working relation unhealthy and destructive.

[Moore77]

Looking at the team and combination of Hamilton/Bottas is such an one dimensional way, is a bit silly. Hamilton thrives in a team that is build with trust, from all sides. Bottas, Hamilton and the team have clearly a working relation that they work as a big team and then maximise the team result. No hidden agendas, no backstabbing, no witholding information, no games, etc.

Hamilton thrives because of Bottas, not despite him. You see the same thing at RedBull at the moment, Verstappen and Albon both working on improving the car. I expect that we'll see the same thing at Ferrari next year.

That both Hamilton and Verstappen have a clear advantage on track over their teammates makes this team dynamic natural.

A good way to measure it might be team mate crashes. Vettel and Leclerc had a few now, so did Verstappen and Ricciardo and Hamilton Rosberg, Vettel Webber and Hamilton and Button even. I can't see Hamilton and Bottas crashing, despite they are wheel to wheel trough the first corner almost every weekend.

So you agree having a good, slow team mate helps the better driver and the team! That's all others are saying.

No, he performs even better without inner team rivalries. If you look at pure speed, Bottas and Rosberg are quite comparable. Rosberg just played every trick in the book to put Hamilton off balance, making the working relation unhealthy and destructive.

Bottas is a good guy, who doesn't play every trick in the book to put Hamilton off balance, making the working relationship healthy and constructive. Fast, but not fast enough and also doesn't mind when the team makes a decision to let Hamilton through or use like a 'Wingman'. That good atmosphere lets Hamilton drive without any headaches. This is a more civilized definition of saying, Bottas is a lapdog.