Shrieker wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:47 pm
ringo wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:42 am
Hamilton will be the greatest ever. if he is not the greatest ever, then who is?
Senna, who didn't get to fulfil his full potential (could've realistically, maybe easily won 1994-5-6-7)
This is speculation. All of that is disputable. He was like 34 years old when died and he had his best years behind him from the MP4 cars which were totally dominant. There is no guarantee he would have continued to go unchallenged.
The fact is he was stopped at 3 championships.
Clark. Same goes for him; who knows how many more he could've won.
See above. How about Mansell? what if he had less bad luck? Also Prost. he would have had 7 championships as well.
Prost is in fact a greater driver than Senna, when you consider his racing career as a whole. Yes Senna is faster, but i don't think as a complete career driver he beats Prost, even when he was alive. Prost from the early 80s all the way to the 90s was never operating on a mediocre level.
Lauda, what might've been without his life/career altering crash ? He could've done what Schumacher did with Ferrari, nearly three decades earlier.
Maybe Fangio would've handed all of them their asses, with all of them in a modern car. How can you know for sure without pitting them against each other at their prime ?
Btw I made an argument both for for/against. If you look at isolated stats like Senna's pole percentage for example, or him putting 1.4 seconds into Prost of all drivers @ monaco, it becomes a little easier to make an argument that Hamilton can't be the greatest. But hats off to him still, 93/257 poles (~%36) is still crazy good.
I don't understand what you are saying here. lol. You are being very subjective here. Hamilton has outqualified other drivers and his teammates by greater lap time percentages than Senna. So not sure why you are saying this is an argument to say why someone who has the best numbers, has shown that he is the most talented in his time, is not the greatest? This is why we should stick to the numbers as the Shumi fans have for decades.
The drives can definitely add weight to greatness, but they don't determine if another driver cannot be considered great.