2020 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, September 4 - 6

[Wass85]

It changes nothing yet puts him closer to the pack after his stop.

With fewer laps to go.

Its robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Literally made no difference if he pitted straight away or after 2 laps.

Ah yes you're right, obviously Lewis was thinking the same hence him questioning it.

[Restomaniac]

So how do we judge NORs race?

Great race from him... Managing to keep Bottas behind him in that last stint in what is a superior car! Nicely done by both Mclaren drivers


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SAI has a great race; NOR never made much impact. He never goes out and takes the result.

Apart from finishing 3rd in Austria obviously.

[dans79]

How beautiful podium look like without Mercedes / RBR / Ferrari drivers...!

Cherish it while you can, because it probably won't look like that again for atleast a few years.

[Hammerfist]

Just think if Merc let Hamilton stay out instead of foolishly boxing him at the end of the first lap he may have got both Ricciardo and Bottas.

Yeah I didn't understand why they didn't let him do the 2 laps he had before serving his penalty. He tried to argue his case but they would have none of it. Strange. Mercedes is so bad strategically.

[NathanOlder]

It changes nothing yet puts him closer to the pack after his stop.

What the hell are you on about

Stop trolling or I'll spit my dummy out like you.

Just pointing out how wrong you are, and you claim Mercedes were fools for doing what they did, when it was the right thing to do. I can think of 1 good reason to take the penalty straight away, and then a fairly decent reason to take it straight away.

[djones]

It changes nothing yet puts him closer to the pack after his stop.

With fewer laps to go.

Its robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Literally made no difference if he pitted straight away or after 2 laps.

Ah yes you're right, obviously Lewis was thinking the same hence him questioning it.

I thought you were serious. But after this last post now can see you're just trolling.

[Just_a_fan]

Still can't work out the penalty (level) it wasn't deliberate and Ham didn't gain from it so was a 32 sec penalty fair?

10 seconds stop/go is simply the standard penalty for driving into a closed pit lane.
It doesn't matter if it was deliberate or not. If you drive over a red light and get caught, i guarantee you, you can't argue you way out with "oh, but i didn't it deliberatly." You drove over a red light and that's that. Doesn't matter why.

Could you please post the rules stating "this penalty for this infringement" rule ?

My highlights.

28.14 Under exceptional circumstances the race director may ask for the pit entry to be closed during
the race for safety reasons. At such times drivers may only enter the pit lane in order for
essential and entirely evident repairs to be carried out to the car. A penalty under Article 38.3(d)
will be imposed on any driver who, in the opinion of the stewards, entered the pit lane for any
other reason whilst it was closed.

38.3 The stewards may impose any one of the penalties below on any driver involved in an Incident:
a) A five second time penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane, stop in his pit stop position
for at least five seconds and then re-join the race. The relevant driver may however elect
not to stop, provided he carries out no further pit stop before the end of the race. In such
cases five seconds will be added to the elapsed race time of the driver concerned.
b) A ten second time penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane, stop in his pit stop position
for at least ten seconds and then re-join the race. The relevant driver may however elect
not to stop, provided he carries out no further pit stop before the end of the race. In such
cases ten seconds will be added to the elapsed race time of the driver concerned.
In both of the above cases the driver concerned must carry out the penalty the next time he
enters the pit lane and, for the avoidance of doubt, this includes any stop the driver makes whilst
a VSC or safety car procedure is in use.
c) A drive-through penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane and re-join the race without
stopping.
d) A ten second stop-and-go time penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane, stop in his pit
stop position for at least ten seconds and then re-join the race.

[Moore77]

How beautiful podium look like without Mercedes / RBR / Ferrari drivers...!

Cherish it while you can, because it probably won't look like that again for atleast a few years.

While it might happen once in a while, but becomes so much memorable for years to come. Like a 2008 Italian GP.

[214270]

Great race from him... Managing to keep Bottas behind him in that last stint in what is a superior car! Nicely done by both Mclaren drivers


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SAI has a great race; NOR never made much impact. He never goes out and takes the result.

Apart from finishing 3rd in Austria obviously.

Luck played a big part in that result too

[Wass85]

With fewer laps to go.

Its robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Literally made no difference if he pitted straight away or after 2 laps.

Ah yes you're right, obviously Lewis was thinking the same hence him questioning it.

I thought you were serious. But after this last post now can see you're just trolling.

Are you for real FFS?

Hamilton was on team radio asking to stop out and Vowles got on and talked with him.

[dans79]

It changes nothing yet puts him closer to the pack after his stop.

With fewer laps to go.

Its robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Literally made no difference if he pitted straight away or after 2 laps.

Ah yes you're right, obviously Lewis was thinking the same hence him questioning it.

I think he was questioning it, because the team would have looked very foolish if there had been a safety car or a virtual safety car on the next lap.

[Wass85]

With fewer laps to go.

Its robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Literally made no difference if he pitted straight away or after 2 laps.

Ah yes you're right, obviously Lewis was thinking the same hence him questioning it.

I think he was questioning it, because the team would have looked very foolish if there had been a safety car or a virtual safety car on the next lap.

Hence why they wanted to box on the first lap, Hamilton was questioning that move.

[Mogster]

Worried for the remaining races overtaking wise seems engine modes nullified tactical use.

Yes that’s my concern. Overtaking looked very difficult.

[SmallSoldier]

So how do we judge NORs race?

Great race from him... Managing to keep Bottas behind him in that last stint in what is a superior car! Nicely done by both Mclaren drivers


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SAI has a great race; NOR never made much impact. He never goes out and takes the result.

What are you talking about? He finished P4 after starting the race P6... Made a great pass on Bottas into the second chicane... Managed to pass Perez and Bottas in the first stint and keep both of them behind... He managed to keep Bottas behind for all of the second stint.

He made the moves he needed to make on the Alfa Romeo’s when he had to.

He is leading Mclaren in terms of points in the teams and tied for P4 with Stroll in the WCC.


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[djones]

Ah yes you're right, obviously Lewis was thinking the same hence him questioning it.

I think he was questioning it, because the team would have looked very foolish if there had been a safety car or a virtual safety car on the next lap.

Hence why they wanted to box on the first lap, Hamilton was questioning that move.

ok you made me reply.

Hamilton was in the middle of a race with a lot going on. Hence why his team had to step in and say "trust me".

My 7 year old daughter has enough of an understanding of maths to work out it changes nothing in that scenario if you pit straight away or after a few laps. Why are you struggling so much??