2020 Tuscan Grand Prix - Mugello, September 11 - 13

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2020 Tuscan Grand Prix - Mugello, September 11 - 13

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Tyre choices by Pirelli C1 - C2 - C3
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Ferrari will continue to get murdered around this place, just in a slightly different way than we have seen so far.

This "short" season is proving quite long for Ferrari fans!

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A big, long straight, essentially 5 chicanes, mostly pretty fast, and 4 neck breaking corners, 2 right and 2 left.

Mercedes will pick up ENORMOUS time on the field in Turns 1, 8/9, 12, and 14. The neck breakers.

Still glad we are going to see what F1 looks like at Mugello.

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This is going to be a high speed Monaco. The chances of overtaking will be minimal as the entry and exit to the one straight are both fairly high speed and go on for at least 180 degrees. I doubt anyone will be able to stay close enough in Bucine to be able to get close enough to attempt a dive in to San Donato. The driver ahead will stay to the right and then the driver attempting to overtake won't get around him before the exit. I expect a few will try and I expect a few touches/crashes in Luco as a result of them squabbling.

The onboards from qualifying should be fairly spectacular, however. =D>
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Ringleheim wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:37 pm
Ferrari will continue to get murdered around this place, just in a slightly different way than we have seen so far.
May be not! The circuit requires a good deal of downforce too, so most teams would run lot of downforce. This is a similar conundrum like Suzuka. There is one long straight, but it also puts premium on downforce because of the rest of the circuit. So, Ferrari has no issues with downforce part and would be better off there compared to the mid field competition. Mid field can't put Monza wing and hence, wouldn't be so much problematic. Might not be as painful as Spa and Monza has been.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:58 pm
This is going to be a high speed Monaco. The chances of overtaking will be minimal as the entry and exit to the one straight are both fairly high speed and go on for at least 180 degrees. I doubt anyone will be able to stay close enough in Bucine to be able to get close enough to attempt a dive in to San Donato. The driver ahead will stay to the right and then the driver attempting to overtake won't get around him before the exit. I expect a few will try and I expect a few touches/crashes in Luco as a result of them squabbling.

The onboards from qualifying should be fairly spectacular, however. =D>
Agreed. The mid part of the straight is weird as it kind of cramps up at the pit exit before opening again (black circle below). MotoGP bikes does wonders on there, when they go over painted curb to get more space on the right. It's not exactly a straight in F1 sense.

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Aren't you supposed to post the results of the last race held at this track? :-)

Also, Pirelli bringing the hardest tyres. Probably a boring one-stop race unfortunately. This is such a weird season anyway. Why not spice it up.

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Ringleheim wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:50 pm
Still glad we are going to see what F1 looks like at Mugello.
Very much so.

My only experience of the place is on the PC but there’s no doubt Mugello is a special track to drive. I’ve wondered what modern F1 cars would look like there for years, now we’ll find out. The race and even qualy could be interesting as I can’t see the event going off without multiple safety cars. We’ll see. I hope it’s a good one.

Forecast looks very hot, 30°C+, all weekend, hot enough to fry a nice Frittata on the engine covers... Should give RBR and Merc something to think about.

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I think Sunday being a success or a snoozfest will all come down to the length of the DRS zone.
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If nothing else, it'll be interesting to compare F1 times here with the other series that race here such as MotoGP. The last time F1 cars ran here, during testing, the top time was a 1.21 which was just over a second faster than the pole time for that year's Spanish GP. This year's Spanish GP pole time was 7 seconds faster than the 2012 pole time. So we might expect a pole time of 1.14 here? Or is that much too simplistic an approach?
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The onboard in qualifying will look crazy, will be a horrible race though I should imagine.

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It looks rather narrow, what are the over take areas?
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Basically none if there isn't a massive delta between cars, if so it will be the DRS zone before the first corner.

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F3 Euro 2019 race at Mugello. Whatever the overtaking opportunities F1 cars are going to look fantastic.


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From that race footage it does look like it will be very hard to overtake.

Lovely sweeping corners though, looks like it was built for the Merc, they'll love it