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any quess on the gains from a merc/ren style solution, mine would be for a more consistent airflow in yaw since you dont have two big pillars in a critical area but leave the area more open, another reason i mention this, renault adopted this solution, and one of their key weaknesses of previous years was inconsistent airflow in all situations,

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The idea behind the Mercedes nose is to make it as neutral as possible and have it affect the air around it as little as possible (bar the cape). This probably opens up better barge board management I would imagine.
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SiLo wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:45 pm
The idea behind the Mercedes nose is to make it as neutral as possible and have it affect the air around it as little as possible (bar the cape). This probably opens up better barge board management I would imagine.
I'm thinking it could have something to do with improving either low-speed performance by allowing more air through when the car is in yaw, or maybe helping the car to behave better in cross winds by making it less sensitive

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the EDGE wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:13 pm
SiLo wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:45 pm
The idea behind the Mercedes nose is to make it as neutral as possible and have it affect the air around it as little as possible (bar the cape). This probably opens up better barge board management I would imagine.
I'm thinking it could have something to do with improving either low-speed performance by allowing more air through when the car is in yaw, or maybe helping the car to behave better in cross winds by making it less sensitive
Maybe? My response was from a video with James Allison and Ted, where they spoke about the shape of the nose and why it was shaped that way.

Here is the video:
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:48 am
Could this new nose impact the front wing style?
The objective of this type of nose is to clear more space around the inner tips of the front wing flaps, so that the vortex generated there (called Y250 becauss of its lateral position) can be stronger and less disturbed by protuberances like pylons and tunnels.
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SiLo wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:28 pm
Maybe? My response was from a video with James Allison and Ted, where they spoke about the shape of the nose and why it was shaped that way.
Well that was worth watching, James come across as very passionate, perhaps even a little too passionate... Aero Porn :lol: , I’m never gonna get that out of my head now :lol:

Took a while to watch till we got to the topic of the nose but I see what you mean

An increase in the Y250 vortex would be beneficial at all the speeds, But I think, perhaps hope would be a better word, Would be a better word, it’ll help most in low speed corners

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I actually was surprised with the nose change I drew a 3D model of something very similar for the MCL-35 though my design had a double flapped cape and 2 openings at the top Sides of the Nose and exit tunnels at the bottom to create a Z-duct

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haza wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:01 pm
I actually was surprised with the nose change I drew a 3D model of something very similar for the MCL-35 though my design had a double flapped cape and 2 openings at the top Sides of the Nose and exit tunnels at the bottom to create a Z-duct
Is it possible to post have a screenshot of it? Seems interesting

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the bargeboards seems to be free of floviz.. there were suggestions that the cape was designed around secondary y250 vortex from below it to move towards the bargeboards and use the opposing rotation of the cape vortex to seal the floor... maybe the car has not ran in anger yet though
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Lando got flow vis on front wing end plates, can anyone spot any updates?

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Lando also has the new sidepod deflectors now.

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charliesmithhd wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:10 pm
haza wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:01 pm
I actually was surprised with the nose change I drew a 3D model of something very similar for the MCL-35 though my design had a double flapped cape and 2 openings at the top Sides of the Nose and exit tunnels at the bottom to create a Z-duct
Is it possible to post have a screenshot of it? Seems interesting
I’m still working on the concept but I can give you all an idea on the concept, the idea is for the nose to have 3 openings one at the tip an 2 on the top sides of the nose the idea is for airflow to go through these channels and out of 2 tunnels that exit at the bottom rear of the nose theoretically it should send the airflow through the nose and out the bottom towards the turning vanes and bargeboards and the cape is effectively a double cape that is basically designed to add a small amount of downforce it is still very early designs and I am yet to do CFD Simulations between the current nose and my concept for comparison