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Ispano.... You need to explain to us what is happening with Max's engine.. Any information from Japan?

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:29 am
Ispano.... You need to explain to us what is happening with Max's engine.. Any information from Japan?
I assure you that we will receive a message full of optimism and hope about the secret developments of Honda. You will never hear criticism of a Honda from this person.

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_cerber1 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:47 am
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:29 am
Ispano.... You need to explain to us what is happening with Max's engine.. Any information from Japan?
I assure you that we will receive a message full of optimism and hope about the secret developments of Honda. You will never hear criticism of a Honda from this person.
Far from it, I merely bring forth the truth against false claims and misleading translations.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:29 am
Ispano.... You need to explain to us what is happening with Max's engine.. Any information from Japan?
We won't know so soon after and will need to find out how much Honda is going to disclose.
I will say I had a conversation on Thursday about the current situation at Honda and after this weekend have concerns about the things that have been ongoing and transpired. Things aren't so random, coincidence and inconsequential as people may make them seem.

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There is a rumour going around that in order to put the fight to Mercedes, the engine in Max's RedBull in particular is turned up to a higher setting than the ones in the other three RedBulls....

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:24 pm
There is a rumour going around that in order to put the fight to Mercedes, the engine in Max's RedBull in particular is turned up to a higher setting than the ones in the other three RedBulls....
They used to run quali modes a few times per race weekend and still not have these kind of issues and they've only ran this PU in one race so far. So even if that's true, I don't see how such issues would be related. Overheating? Maybe, but the issue at Mugello? I doubt it.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:24 pm
There is a rumour going around that in order to put the fight to Mercedes, the engine in Max's RedBull in particular is turned up to a higher setting than the ones in the other three RedBulls....
That should be only the ERS settings. Because ICE modes must be the same for all 4 Honda PU

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Marti_EF3 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:43 pm
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:24 pm
There is a rumour going around that in order to put the fight to Mercedes, the engine in Max's RedBull in particular is turned up to a higher setting than the ones in the other three RedBulls....
That should be only the ERS settings. Because ICE modes must be the same for all 4 Honda PU

Say... Six maps are issued each race... All four ECUs have these six maps.. But Max is given permission to use Map #6.. Everybody else has access to them but are assigned to Map #5.

This is because Max has to fight Merxedes and he shoulders the risk. Maybe why Honda is so hush on things...

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We won't know it anyway. Could be more agressive settings. Or maybe personal settings on how he wants to drive the car. Or that this PU have something wrong, and better to ditch it. Because the other PU are doing fine

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I thought the directive was the same engine mode must be used by all engines in a team (and all 4 honda powered cars are classed as one team) and when third engine is used it same mode on all manufactures engine irrespective of team.

So Max must have same base map as the other hondas

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windy1603 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:05 pm
I thought the directive was the same engine mode must be used by all engines in a team (and all 4 honda powered cars are classed as one team) and when third engine is used it same mode on all manufactures engine irrespective of team.

So Max must have same base map as the other hondas

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Without direct access to the document it is very difficult to say. All I have seen is interpretations of the document, some of which contradict each other. I can't imagine that the PU manufacturer should be able to dictate which engine mode must be used and customers should be given a few modes, but all the modes must be the same between all PUs. But I also don't know the exact language so its all just guess work.

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Stupid question ... I (naively ?) thought that all engine modes were gone. You qualify with what you're going to race. However, everyone's still talking about modes so was I mistaken ?
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bigblue wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:56 pm
Stupid question ... I (naievely ?) thought that all engine modes were gone. You qualify with what you're going to race. However, everyone's still talking about modes so was I mistaken ?
Engine modes are locked from qualifying and race. But they can change week to week and during practice. The question i have is can teams run different modes from each other? I seem to recall they can even change engine modes during the lap as long as they do it every lap, but I may be mistaken on that one.

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bigblue wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:56 pm
Stupid question ... I (naievely ?) thought that all engine modes were gone. You qualify with what you're going to race. However, everyone's still talking about modes so was I mistaken ?
they are not gone, i mean they are not completely removed from the ecus, but you cannot switch between them since start of qualification, but a few corner cases, like outlap in qualy.