Really you think that's what that is ? He obviously made a BIG mistake,,, not sure howthat equates to maturity...selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 18:23is Saniz blind? over looked caused the damage. Still need to mature as F1 driver.
On the possitive side, they got data from Norris.PhillipM wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 18:50These crashes couldn't have been at a worse time tbfh, the last one delayed parts to match those nose in favour of replacement parts, fridays delayed testing so they had to run the nose on Norris just to get more data and now the factory has to churn out more replacement parts right when they're critical to get the matching parts out for the nose.
I think it's gonna be a case of run the nose as it is and accept the performance deficit for the next few races.
Does that mean the entire upgrade won’t be ready for Germany?PhillipM wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 18:50These crashes couldn't have been at a worse time tbfh, the last one delayed parts to match those nose in favour of replacement parts, fridays delayed testing so they had to run the nose on Norris just to get more data and now the factory has to churn out more replacement parts right when they're critical to get the matching parts out for the nose.
I think it's gonna be a case of run the nose as it is and accept the performance deficit for the next few races.
Yes. I saw that way because, it seems he try to over smart him self and in turns shows lack of maturity....diffuser wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 19:47Really you think that's what that is ? He obviously made a BIG mistake,,, not sure howthat equates to maturity...selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 18:23is Saniz blind? over looked caused the damage. Still need to mature as F1 driver.
Do you have any "shareable" information regarding the parts that complement the new nose (without putting you in an awkward situation of course)? If I were to guess, I would say bargeboards and maybe floor + diffuser. But I doubt they can have all of these ready so soon since the parts I mentioned pretty much cover the whole aerodynamic side of the car. Probably bargeboards might come first since they seem the easiest to produce.PhillipM wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 18:50These crashes couldn't have been at a worse time tbfh, the last one delayed parts to match those nose in favour of replacement parts, fridays delayed testing so they had to run the nose on Norris just to get more data and now the factory has to churn out more replacement parts right when they're critical to get the matching parts out for the nose.
I think it's gonna be a case of run the nose as it is and accept the performance deficit for the next few races.
To be fair, it did feel to me like he had a rush of blood to the head relating to his desire not to lose positions!selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 21:00Yes. I saw that way because, it seems he try to over smart him self and in turns shows lack of maturity....diffuser wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 19:47Really you think that's what that is ? He obviously made a BIG mistake,,, not sure howthat equates to maturity...selvam_e2002 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 18:23is Saniz blind? over looked caused the damage. Still need to mature as F1 driver.
Even Grojan did not hit the wall
Just ask yourself. If the upgrades CAN'T make a difference why spend so many man-hours to design them, produce them and race them?Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 23:37Can the upgrades make a difference once combined with the new nose?
Chicane wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020, 07:39Mercedes are where they are because they question themselves and push themselves even when they are winning everything. They are so self critical and willing to improve in every single area. They do not normalize anything saying "oh these things happen" .
I am a huge fan of this team for 25 years now and it pains me to see the kind of unforced erors that have happened in the last couple of races. When the midfield is like minefield and the team is pushing like crazy to bring upgrades alongside developing next year's challenger, you do not bin the car three times in 2 race wewkends like Sainz did. In Mugello he got overzealous with Stroll and put his nose where it didn't belong and got spun around. Then he stuffed the car in FP1 which required replacement of complete rear end. In the race he had a brain fade and went straight in to the wall.
As Philipm mentioned above the team is burning the midnight oil to produce parts and these crashes have proved to be very costly. Mclaren are not at Mercedes, Ferrari and Redbull levels when it comes to production capacity and infrastructure, at least not yet. Drivers cannot be binning it especially in the manner in which Sainz did. He is a very good driver and he owned up but he cost the team a big chunk of points and a massive parts bill.
Maybe WE need to have a chat with Ricciardomclaren111 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020, 10:28Chicane wrote: ↑28 Sep 2020, 07:39Mercedes are where they are because they question themselves and push themselves even when they are winning everything. They are so self critical and willing to improve in every single area. They do not normalize anything saying "oh these things happen" .
I am a huge fan of this team for 25 years now and it pains me to see the kind of unforced erors that have happened in the last couple of races. When the midfield is like minefield and the team is pushing like crazy to bring upgrades alongside developing next year's challenger, you do not bin the car three times in 2 race wewkends like Sainz did. In Mugello he got overzealous with Stroll and put his nose where it didn't belong and got spun around. Then he stuffed the car in FP1 which required replacement of complete rear end. In the race he had a brain fade and went straight in to the wall.
As Philipm mentioned above the team is burning the midnight oil to produce parts and these crashes have proved to be very costly. Mclaren are not at Mercedes, Ferrari and Redbull levels when it comes to production capacity and infrastructure, at least not yet. Drivers cannot be binning it especially in the manner in which Sainz did. He is a very good driver and he owned up but he cost the team a big chunk of points and a massive parts bill.
Maybe he is working for Ferrari Already....