They were planning on keeping him out until he locked up and finished the tyres off.godlameroso wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 00:38McLaren didn't have the pace or the strategy. They left Norris out too long on the hards, I think pitting him 10 laps earlier would have yielded a better position. The advantage of fresher tires towards the end of the race is very powerful, and McLaren didn't take advantage of their ability to save tires. He needed pace in the 39's to make it work however his pace was 10th place at best here.
Fortunately McLaren has some updates that will work with the new front wing, hopefully that hauls them up to where they were before pace wise.
He was loosing performance long before the lock-up, and the reason he locked-up was because the tyre was on the limit alreadymwillems wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 09:32They were planning on keeping him out until he locked up and finished the tyres off.godlameroso wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 00:38McLaren didn't have the pace or the strategy. They left Norris out too long on the hards, I think pitting him 10 laps earlier would have yielded a better position. The advantage of fresher tires towards the end of the race is very powerful, and McLaren didn't take advantage of their ability to save tires. He needed pace in the 39's to make it work however his pace was 10th place at best here.
Fortunately McLaren has some updates that will work with the new front wing, hopefully that hauls them up to where they were before pace wise.
Hoping for a safety car is like making a plan to bite someone in a fight. Just a good way to lose your teeth.the EDGE wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 12:42He was loosing performance long before the lock-up, and the reason he locked-up was because the tyre was on the limit alreadymwillems wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 09:32They were planning on keeping him out until he locked up and finished the tyres off.godlameroso wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 00:38McLaren didn't have the pace or the strategy. They left Norris out too long on the hards, I think pitting him 10 laps earlier would have yielded a better position. The advantage of fresher tires towards the end of the race is very powerful, and McLaren didn't take advantage of their ability to save tires. He needed pace in the 39's to make it work however his pace was 10th place at best here.
Fortunately McLaren has some updates that will work with the new front wing, hopefully that hauls them up to where they were before pace wise.
I understand McLaren were holding hoping for another SC, but let be honest... Sod’s law says that was not going to happen!
I agree with godlameroso, committing early to a 2 stop (like Albon) and sending Lando out in full attack mode would have been a better strategy, At the very least it would’ve made the fans happier
Oh I'm not trying to suggest what would be the best strategy, just that from the team radio you could tell they were trying to keep him out.the EDGE wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 12:42He was loosing performance long before the lock-up, and the reason he locked-up was because the tyre was on the limit alreadymwillems wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 09:32They were planning on keeping him out until he locked up and finished the tyres off.godlameroso wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 00:38McLaren didn't have the pace or the strategy. They left Norris out too long on the hards, I think pitting him 10 laps earlier would have yielded a better position. The advantage of fresher tires towards the end of the race is very powerful, and McLaren didn't take advantage of their ability to save tires. He needed pace in the 39's to make it work however his pace was 10th place at best here.
Fortunately McLaren has some updates that will work with the new front wing, hopefully that hauls them up to where they were before pace wise.
I understand McLaren were holding hoping for another SC, but let be honest... Sod’s law says that was not going to happen!
I agree with godlameroso, committing early to a 2 stop (like Albon) and sending Lando out in full attack mode would have been a better strategy, At the very least it would’ve made the fans happier
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Yeah, that does suck for RBR. Now they've got nowhere to go. I like the Perez idea but that's so not RBR.Andres125sx wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 07:50* and also it´s really hard to understand RBR blaming him for nothing, just to allow Max keep doing wrong things. Now they got with Albon what they deserve, an average driver at most
Yeah, but with Alonso arriving there's no guarantee they don't peak and start going back down again. Just given his luck in the past lol.diffuser wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 03:59Yeah, that does suck for RBR. Now they've got nowhere to go. I like the Perez idea but that's so not RBR.Andres125sx wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 07:50* and also it´s really hard to understand RBR blaming him for nothing, just to allow Max keep doing wrong things. Now they got with Albon what they deserve, an average driver at most
I like Ricciardo at McLaren though Norris has me scratching my head. His pace was nowhere all week. Seems that it's been all Sainz the last few tracks. Even though Sainz has DNF'd, he has had the Better pace.
Also like this Alonso going to Renault with Renault on a upward trend. First good news for Alo in a decade.
Rofl, yeah tell me about it!adrianjordan wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 08:59Yeah, but with Alonso arriving there's no guarantee they don't peak and start going back down again. Just given his luck in the past lol.diffuser wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 03:59Yeah, that does suck for RBR. Now they've got nowhere to go. I like the Perez idea but that's so not RBR.Andres125sx wrote: ↑30 Sep 2020, 07:50* and also it´s really hard to understand RBR blaming him for nothing, just to allow Max keep doing wrong things. Now they got with Albon what they deserve, an average driver at most
I like Ricciardo at McLaren though Norris has me scratching my head. His pace was nowhere all week. Seems that it's been all Sainz the last few tracks. Even though Sainz has DNF'd, he has had the Better pace.
Also like this Alonso going to Renault with Renault on a upward trend. First good news for Alo in a decade.
Vettel's pissed but, hey I would have gotten rid of him too. The fact that Ferrari wanted someone signed before news got out of how far they had fallen is no surprise. So, even though living with Vettel this year is a pain, it's better that the alternative of having to stick with him or someone lessor than Sainz for two more years.CjC wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 13:27https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... OPBG8.html
Zac makes a few interesting Points about Sainz and Ricciardo
I honestly believe Carlos would still sign for Ferrari tomorrow if asked. It’s Ferrari, you just don’t pass on an option to sign for Ferrari (unless your already with a top team like Max & Lewis)diffuser wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 14:16Vettel's pissed but, hey I would have gotten rid of him too. The fact that Ferrari wanted someone signed before news got out of how far they had fallen is no surprise. So, even though living with Vettel this year is a pain, it's better that the alternative of having to stick with him or someone lessor than Sainz for two more years.CjC wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 13:27https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... OPBG8.html
Zac makes a few interesting Points about Sainz and Ricciardo
I don't agree with the lack of unity over at the other teams. Both Perez, Ricciardo and their respective teams are working well together to maximize their packages. Certainly it isn't a great situation with them wanting to move/be moved.
For the life of me I don't understand RP going for Vettel. The way he's acting unprofessionally at Ferrari this year. He also going into a situation where he knows he's the number 2 driver. I'd be worried that he's gonna pout at RP when faced with reality of #2.
There was a time where Mclaren was the top name in F1. The leadership should do anything possible to make Mclaren the top team that everyone wants to go to.the EDGE wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 15:56I honestly believe Carlos would still sign for Ferrari tomorrow if asked. It’s Ferrari, you just don’t pass on an option to sign for Ferrari (unless your already with a top team like Max & Lewis)diffuser wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 14:16Vettel's pissed but, hey I would have gotten rid of him too. The fact that Ferrari wanted someone signed before news got out of how far they had fallen is no surprise. So, even though living with Vettel this year is a pain, it's better that the alternative of having to stick with him or someone lessor than Sainz for two more years.CjC wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 13:27https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... OPBG8.html
Zac makes a few interesting Points about Sainz and Ricciardo
I don't agree with the lack of unity over at the other teams. Both Perez, Ricciardo and their respective teams are working well together to maximize their packages. Certainly it isn't a great situation with them wanting to move/be moved.
For the life of me I don't understand RP going for Vettel. The way he's acting unprofessionally at Ferrari this year. He also going into a situation where he knows he's the number 2 driver. I'd be worried that he's gonna pout at RP when faced with reality of #2.
Many drivers come to F1 and never win a race again, let alone a championship,
Driving for Ferrari is the next best thing, and I say that despite being in McLaren fan
But I totally agree about Vettel, perhaps he will surprise us all next year, we’ll see.
But let’s be honest, this is about marketing Aston Martin, not winning Formula One races. Europe is there market, not Mexico, and Seb is a famous German driver with 4 titles to his name.