[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[Big Tea]

SEIDL from McLaren racing site.
We need to wait for our colleagues from Renault to investigate, but it appears to be an issue similar to what Carlos experienced in Spa.

So a cracked exhaust.

That's weird. Didn't he have ERS issues when he started reporting the engine problems? Is the exhaust a McLaren part? I wonder if the weather conditions had any role in all the engine problems we saw today. (Apart from Albon which was something external)

There are all sorts of sensors checking the battery does not overheat, and it probably does not care if it is heated electrically or by blown gas.

[diffuser]

SEIDL from McLaren racing site.
We need to wait for our colleagues from Renault to investigate, but it appears to be an issue similar to what Carlos experienced in Spa.

So a cracked exhaust.

That's weird. Didn't he have ERS issues when he started reporting the engine problems? Is the exhaust a McLaren part? I wonder if the weather conditions had any role in all the engine problems we saw today. (Apart from Albon which was something external)

There are all sorts of sensors checking the battery does not overheat, and it probably does not care if it is heated electrically or by blown gas.

Agreed, I heard sensor problems.

[CjC]

Lando confirming most of our fears

https://www.racefans.net/2020/10/11/nor ... t-problem/

[Darth-Piekus]

The whole penalty thing is a joke. The only engine that can benefit from these rules is the Mercedes which is almost invinsible. Sometimes I wonder if the old Ferrari International Assistance of Max Mosley or the new Mercedes International Assistance is better.

[Mansell89]

The whole penalty thing is a joke. The only engine that can benefit from these rules is the Mercedes which is almost invinsible. Sometimes I wonder if the old Ferrari International Assistance of Max Mosley or the new Mercedes International Assistance is better.

Whilst the rule might be a little bit mad, we should also praise Mercedes reliability across the last 7 years.

The issue I had with the regs was the stupid token system and lack of testing that locked in the Merc dominance for the first year or two. Added to that of course was the madness of PU customers not having the same knowledge of the complex modes.

Things are converging now and being a Mercedes customer is not a bad place to be at all, it just means you’ve got to do a simply outstanding job if you think you’re gonna go toe to toe with the works team, who have been incredible really.

I think it will do us good to have a year of Mercedes in prep for the new regulations but not expecting a big gain given the scrutiny of our rear of the car being developed.

[diffuser]

Lando confirming most of our fears

https://www.racefans.net/2020/10/11/nor ... t-problem/

So that does say anything more than what we already know. He doesn't confirm anything. He has fears.

[diffuser]

SEIDL from McLaren racing site.
We need to wait for our colleagues from Renault to investigate, but it appears to be an issue similar to what Carlos experienced in Spa.

So a cracked exhaust.

That's weird. Didn't he have ERS issues when he started reporting the engine problems? Is the exhaust a McLaren part? I wonder if the weather conditions had any role in all the engine problems we saw today. (Apart from Albon which was something external)

I agree, I think the exhaust is a McLaren part. It is part of the PU packaging. Renault tell them the Turbo requirements and McLaren build it to suit their packaging needs.

If the exhaust cracked there would be alot of heat there.

[diffuser]

The whole penalty thing is a joke. The only engine that can benefit from these rules is the Mercedes which is almost invinsible. Sometimes I wonder if the old Ferrari International Assistance of Max Mosley or the new Mercedes International Assistance is better.

I think the penalties aren't that bad. Basically you pay the penalty at the race of your choice but you get to use that PU for as many more races you can, penalty free.

[adrianjordan]

Don't forget that there are some advantages to not finishing as high in the WCC table that make sacrificing performance with a compromised car, in favour of next season, less of a bitter pill.

The lower you finish, the more CAD and wind tunnel time you get.

[elldizzle]

This was an interesting race for 2 reasons, 1. The new package needs to be understood and we could clearly see the lack of running and set up time showed in the timesheets. That saying, carlos pace to Ocon for the first part of the race wasn't bad. 2. I feel Lando had decent pace today, definately quicker than Perez. The team have stated that the results seen from the wind tunnel to the track have correlated with the new package. It just needs some time to be understood and get the setup right to unlock it. This is something I feel took Renault a while with their car using the same aero philosophy.

[_cerber1]

It looks like it was the same problem as Carlos in Belgium. Perhaps the PU can be saved.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15275 ... -spa-issue

[mclaren111]

Still not bad after our recent misfortunes...

[mclaren111]

[Big Tea]

Has anyone watched Ted's notebook?
There is a shot from between the vehicles that looks like the Mclaren side cover laying on the floor with a nasty looking scorch on the inside.

About 17.05

[M840TR]

SEIDL from McLaren racing site.
We need to wait for our colleagues from Renault to investigate, but it appears to be an issue similar to what Carlos experienced in Spa.

So a cracked exhaust.

That's weird. Didn't he have ERS issues when he started reporting the engine problems? Is the exhaust a McLaren part? I wonder if the weather conditions had any role in all the engine problems we saw today. (Apart from Albon which was something external)

I agree, I think the exhaust is a McLaren part. It is part of the PU packaging. Renault tell them the Turbo requirements and McLaren build it to suit their packaging needs.

If the exhaust cracked there would be alot of heat there.

The ignition system malfunctioned causing un-burnt fuel to enter the exhaust and overheat it.