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Do you really believe that a multinational company like Honda has problems with the English language? Wazari, on the other hand, said that many foreign specialists work even in the motor department, and I strongly doubt that they all learned Japanese.

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_cerber1 wrote:Do you really believe that a multinational company like Honda has problems with the English language? Wazari, on the other hand, said that many foreign specialists work even in the motor department, and I strongly doubt that they all learned Japanese.
There ARE nuances that are difficult to translate. His comment was that if spoken in native tongue, those nuances won’t get lost in translation. Lost in translation IS a thing. Japanese (and to a large degree Chinese) is difficult to translate to/from English.

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_cerber1 wrote:
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Do you really believe that a multinational company like Honda has problems with the English language? Wazari, on the other hand, said that many foreign specialists work even in the motor department, and I strongly doubt that they all learned Japanese.
I don't believe, I know. How many Japanese drivers in the current F1 hybrid era have driven the Honda power unit to be able to give detailed feedback to Honda engineers? Just one, when Yamamoto Naoki drove for Toro Rosso in Japan FP1. You see, Japanese people who speak only Japanese are terrible at English, and believe it or not even the ones who do speak English well can only translate the English they hear and understand into a very basic translation to Japanese. The nuances in the language often times don't translate either, because some of them just don't have the equivalent ways of saying things. Listen to the talking speed and amount of vocabulary Tsunoda uses between English and Japanese. His diction is limited to his English, where as his Japanese flows out.

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sometimes native language is also not enough to tell something, at least for me :lol:

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ispano6 wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:52 pm
I don't believe, I know. How many Japanese drivers in the current F1 hybrid era have driven the Honda power unit to be able to give detailed feedback to Honda engineers? Just one, when Yamamoto Naoki drove for Toro Rosso in Japan FP1. You see, Japanese people who speak only Japanese are terrible at English, and believe it or not even the ones who do speak English well can only translate the English they hear and understand into a very basic translation to Japanese. The nuances in the language often times don't translate either, because some of them just don't have the equivalent ways of saying things. Listen to the talking speed and amount of vocabulary Tsunoda uses between English and Japanese. His diction is limited to his English, where as his Japanese flows out.
You cannot know for sure, you can only guess. There are thousands of engineering companies in the world from Japan, China, India and other countries that conduct a complex technical dialogue only in English. I know this for sure, because the company I work for is doing just that. We employ translators who know English better than some of its native speakers and can easily translate any drawings and technological documents.
Tsunoda played in the European team and won races, which means that his level of English is quite sufficient to explain to the engineers what he needs. And there are many European riders who race in Japan or on Japanese teams who don't know Japanese but have very successful racing careers in that country.

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_cerber1 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:18 am

You cannot know for sure, you can only guess. There are thousands of engineering companies in the world from Japan, China, India and other countries that conduct a complex technical dialogue only in English. I know this for sure, because the company I work for is doing just that. We employ translators who know English better than some of its native speakers and can easily translate any drawings and technological documents.
Tsunoda played in the European team and won races, which means that his level of English is quite sufficient to explain to the engineers what he needs. And there are many European riders who race in Japan or on Japanese teams who don't know Japanese but have very successful racing careers in that country.
I happen to speak Japanese fluently and have family who retired from Honda. If you think he can speak English as well as he can speak Japanese then you're mistaken. Japanese people communicate much better in Japanese, not English. We can put this topic to rest.

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Father and son Verstappen. Honda winter testing. A different of 22 years.

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Hi guys, new here, although a long-time fan of F1.

A quick question: is there a specific reason why I can't seem the images here, other than the word "Image"?

Thank you in advance!

Kind regards, WIm

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Hi wimg, welcome to the forum.

Are you still having that problem? Can you be more specific about it, like what is "here". I am not aware of other people having similar problems, most users seem to see all images just fine.


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Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:28 pm
Hi guys, new here, although a long-time fan of F1.

A quick question: is there a specific reason why I can't seem the images here, other than the word "Image"?

Thank you in advance!

Kind regards, WIm
¡Puxa Esportin!

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hollus wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:00 pm
Hi wimg, welcome to the forum.

Are you still having that problem? Can you be more specific about it, like what is "here". I am not aware of other people having similar problems, most users seem to see all images just fine.

wimg wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:28 pm
Hi guys, new here, although a long-time fan of F1.

A quick question: is there a specific reason why I can't seem the images here, other than the word "Image"?

Thank you in advance!

Kind regards, WIm
When I use Firefox Focus on my iPhone I have the same issue. In Safari the images do work.

Edit: see screenshot https://ibb.co/fYkdcz1

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Welcome Wim, the forum is on new software since a few months and there are a few glitches here and there. Mods are on it! There is also a topic to report any if you have them.
Just a personal interest, a Family recreating a WW2 May 1940 Dutch warbird from scratch: https://www.facebook.com/FlyingFokkerD21/

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Firefox Focus will block “other sites” that might try to track you.
Since images are always externally hosted in F1T, that is likely to be the problem.
Thanks SirBV.
wimg, what are you using?
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hollus wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:00 pm
Hi wimg, welcome to the forum.

Are you still having that problem? Can you be more specific about it, like what is "here". I am not aware of other people having similar problems, most users seem to see all images just fine.
Hi hollus,

Thank you kindly for the welcome!

With "here" I meant here on the forum :). Sorry, I wasn't precise enough.

Kindest regards, Wim

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:12 pm
When I use Firefox Focus on my iPhone I have the same issue. In Safari the images do work.

Edit: see screenshot https://ibb.co/fYkdcz1
Thank you SirSebastianVettel!
Most appreciated, I do sue FireFox most of the time.

Kindest regards, Wim

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Sieper wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:04 pm
Welcome Wim, the forum is on new software since a few months and there are a few glitches here and there. Mods are on it! There is also a topic to report any if you have them.
Hi Sieper,
Thank you, Sieper, I will look for that topic :). I'll gladly help finding and if necessary solving any glitches.
Good to see you are here too, Wouter directed me to this forum :).
Kindest regards, Wim