Formula 1: Drive to Survive (Netflix documentation)

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I hope kids like it too :) I consider it as the only resource i have to see people when their ‘masks’ are down. I have seen Vettel hiding, walking past Binoto after Monza not saluting, talking to Horner about ‘coming home’. All the 3 times he returns his head to look at cameras! I have seen Gasly read news that he wont be on redbull than closes the phone and decides to win. I have seen ‘stupid’ Valteri bieng blown my Hamiltons -fifth element like voice. Its obvious that Vallteri believes that anger can help him. What a mistake. Albon unfortunately needs a year in Russian prison, he would come out as ‘man’. I understood that Kimi and Mick are valuable commodities. Noris is afraid from Riciardo. I saw Sainz missing the hole! Binoto steaming i assume he was watching himself on ipad. Talking about how Leclerc apart from being quick can also attack and defend, implying that someone else wasn’t. In the end i finished with a lot of new prejudices about drivers :) the most important: Vettel might have talked to fia more than he should have...just to name a few things

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I have finished episode two. The Bottas episode. It was better than episode one, you do get a deeper peek into Bottas, his marriage and his Finnish life. There is shocking scene but I leave that for you to find out.
He is still determined that he can beat Lewis. Toto appreciates that, but it seems Toto while very diplomatic about it, is a realist! Ha.

Good so far but nothing too exciting.
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illario wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:30 pm
I hope kids like it too :) I consider it as the only resource i have to see people when their ‘masks’ are down. I have seen Vettel hiding, walking past Binoto after Monza not saluting, talking to Horner about ‘coming home’. All the 3 times he returns his head to look at cameras! I have seen Gasly read news that he wont be on redbull than closes the phone and decides to win. I have seen ‘stupid’ Valteri bieng blown my Hamiltons -fifth element like voice. Its obvious that Vallteri believes that anger can help him. What a mistake. Albon unfortunately needs a year in Russian prison, he would come out as ‘man’. I understood that Kimi and Mick are valuable commodities. Noris is afraid from Riciardo. I saw Sainz missing the hole! Binoto steaming i assume he was watching himself on ipad. Talking about how Leclerc apart from being quick can also attack and defend, implying that someone else wasn’t. In the end i finished with a lot of new prejudices about drivers :) the most important: Vettel might have talked to fia more than he should have...just to name a few things
The problem I have with this series is that likely 95% of what you have "understood" has been faked by Netflix using deliberately misleading cuts of audio and video to create sequences that never happened. Really trashy stuff. And it's categoriesed on Netflix as a "Documentary". It needs a disclaimer at the start stating some of the sequences seen never actually happened.
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Tim.Wright wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:20 pm
illario wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:30 pm
I hope kids like it too :) I consider it as the only resource i have to see people when their ‘masks’ are down. I have seen Vettel hiding, walking past Binoto after Monza not saluting, talking to Horner about ‘coming home’. All the 3 times he returns his head to look at cameras! I have seen Gasly read news that he wont be on redbull than closes the phone and decides to win. I have seen ‘stupid’ Valteri bieng blown my Hamiltons -fifth element like voice. Its obvious that Vallteri believes that anger can help him. What a mistake. Albon unfortunately needs a year in Russian prison, he would come out as ‘man’. I understood that Kimi and Mick are valuable commodities. Noris is afraid from Riciardo. I saw Sainz missing the hole! Binoto steaming i assume he was watching himself on ipad. Talking about how Leclerc apart from being quick can also attack and defend, implying that someone else wasn’t. In the end i finished with a lot of new prejudices about drivers :) the most important: Vettel might have talked to fia more than he should have...just to name a few things
The problem I have with this series is that likely 95% of what you have "understood" has been faked by Netflix using deliberately misleading cuts of audio and video to create sequences that never happened. Really trashy stuff. And it's categoriesed on Netflix as a "Documentary". It needs a disclaimer at the start stating some of the sequences seen never actually happened.
Yeah totally agree. I just watched episode 8, the Mclaren episode and it annoyed me how they try and make it look like there was bad blood between Carlos and Lando. Also when they show Sainz defending from Norris on the outside at turn 6 in Austria they play audio of Lando saying "He just turned in on me, whats he trying to do?" when that audio came from Norris passing Stroll I think it was , when Norris was up the inside at Turn 3 and Stroll did just turn in on him.
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It doesnt matter what you guys think. The series was not made for you! It was made for Netflix target users! ( whoever they are!).

Just enjoy what you can of it.
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There's a difference between artistic license and flat out deception.

Keeping up with the Kardashians was also very popular - doesn't mean it's not trash.
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Tim.Wright wrote:
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There's a difference between artistic license and flat out deception.

Keeping up with the Kardashians was also very popular - doesn't mean it's not trash.
This!!

I've had it on in the background whilst doing other things, which is all it's good for to us die hard F1 fans.

I actually found myself feeling sorry for Seb during the Ferrari episode, he came across as a nice guy who found it funny to cause tension with the team he'd been booted out of.

The McLaren episode annoyed the hell out of me though.
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Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:30 pm
The ziggo bit is also confusing. Ziggo is niche and localised, Netflix is massive in comparison. The reach is not even comparable
The Dutch are success fans. They barely care about the sport itself, the interest solely comes from Max himself.

I'm 99% certain that there were far more viewers viewing whatever Max Verstappen BS there is on Ziggo than Dutch people watching DTS
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Tim.Wright wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:20 pm
The problem I have with this series is that likely 95% of what you have "understood" has been faked by Netflix using deliberately misleading cuts of audio and video to create sequences that never happened. Really trashy stuff. And it's categoriesed on Netflix as a "Documentary". It needs a disclaimer at the start stating some of the sequences seen never actually happened.
I don't necessarily find this particularly bad. The "ethos" of what they are representing isn't far off the truth - maybe it's being bent a little here and there (the stuff you are calling out to be fake, which it is) but overall, it's conveying what happened fairly well.

What I particularly love about the series is that it massively humanizes the sport to a degree where even I as a *hardcore fan* am finding insides that were unknown to me. For example; As a Hamilton fan, I tend to focus more on the Mercedes/Hamilton news and perhaps the drivers he is in close contention with (Vettel, Verstappen, Leclerc, RedBull, Ferrari etc). But I've never really thought much about who is part of Haas, the faces and people behind the team etc. Thanks to this series, I have greatly appreciated the insight to many drivers I never cared about (Sainz for example).

Another plus, as others have mentioned, is that the series is very attractive to watch for people who don't spend most of their free time debating in F1 topics after races.

Possibly the best thing about the series IMO is that they are focusing within their narratives on the challenges that should count more. Yes, Hamilton and Mercedes has dominated F1 for pretty much the past 6 years, but people forget about the smaller battles that are just as valid and exciting - i.e. the battle between team-mates, the battle between Haas and their rivals, Renault and the pressure they face in securing position 4 in the championship and justify the money being poured into the team. Even if the winner of most races has been either a Mercedes, RedBull or Ferrari driver - there's still more than two thirds of a remaining grid of cars that are fighting for points and their existence in F1. Even as a Mercedes fan, I appreciate that the narratives are set around the smaller teams.
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Now this is how you make a proper F1 documentary :lol: :lol:

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