Well, what you know - the big pro-Ivermectin trial, cited by some in favour of whacko remedies, was fraudulent with the authors making stuff up.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... l-concerns
Real trials are still on going.
FWIW I think the seeming move towards daily testing for possible contacts, rather than isolating and lockdowns, will see better compliance and could actually help control the virus more.El Scorchio wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:14 pmIt will be interesting to see what, if any feedback or learnings there are from the British GP weekend, given it was a test event for the UK. FWIW I wouldn't have felt comfortable in such a big crowd.
I think almost every country will eventually have to go through the stage the UK is going through right now which is unlocking with the acceptance that cases will surely rise, but with the question of how this affects serious illness, hospitalisation and death given the vaccination programme. The rest of Europe is very lucky they will be able to study this and learn from what works or does not work.
The sad truth is that this won't 'end' any time soon. We will just have to suppress it the best we can until better and better treatments and maybe an absolute cure could one day be made available globally. (As an aside, people treating 'freedom day' as 'Covid is over' day are absolute irresponsible idiots and putting themselves and other people in peril, but that's just my personal opinion)
It wouldn’t surprise me. After I had COVID, I am feeling pretty well until I try to really push my body. Like the performance ceiling is a lot lower. Where I could peddle 250 watts for half an hour before, I struggle to keep 175 for 20 minutes, while 150 feels as easy as before.nzjrs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:52 pmHamilton thinks he has 'Long Covid' https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58050499
He really look bad when the champagne party started and Ocon needed to support him standing on the stage for the photo. Unable to wave the crowds.nzjrs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:52 pmHamilton thinks he has 'Long Covid' https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58050499
looked like he was about to faint even.NL_Fer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:05 pmHe really look bad when the champagne party started and Ocon needed to support him standing on the stage for the photo. Unable to wave the crowds.nzjrs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:52 pmHamilton thinks he has 'Long Covid' https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58050499
Possibly for the armchair critics who count walking to the McDonald’s as an exercise. For athletes, the performance before and after a COVID diagnosis is measurable. For those there are a lot less variables.nzjrs wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:03 amI think long Covid will end up being massively over (self?) diagnosed, under defined, and largely psychosomatic / socially contagious.
There's something there, but mechanistically it's non novel.
The next interesting 'everything is political battle's will be between the 'long vaccine side effects' people and the 'long covid' people. I mean this earnestly by the way. There is enough there in both cases to not reject both outright.
I think physiologically understood true athlete performance impact (consistent with lung damage) is mechanistically understood, not long-term, and not surprising.Jolle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:15 amPossibly for the armchair critics who count walking to the McDonald’s as an exercise. For athletes, the performance before and after a COVID diagnosis is measurable. For those there are a lot less variables.nzjrs wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:03 amI think long Covid will end up being massively over (self?) diagnosed, under defined, and largely psychosomatic / socially contagious.
There's something there, but mechanistically it's non novel.
The next interesting 'everything is political battle's will be between the 'long vaccine side effects' people and the 'long covid' people. I mean this earnestly by the way. There is enough there in both cases to not reject both outright.
As an anecdote, after I got COVID my measured Aerobic performance was back to normal after about 4 weeks of training. But about 6 months after the infection it began to drop quite massively. From 290W to 190W within 4 months and it only got better after I got prescribed an inhaler.Jolle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:15 amPossibly for the armchair critics who count walking to the McDonald’s as an exercise. For athletes, the performance before and after a COVID diagnosis is measurable. For those there are a lot less variables.nzjrs wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:03 amI think long Covid will end up being massively over (self?) diagnosed, under defined, and largely psychosomatic / socially contagious.
There's something there, but mechanistically it's non novel.
The next interesting 'everything is political battle's will be between the 'long vaccine side effects' people and the 'long covid' people. I mean this earnestly by the way. There is enough there in both cases to not reject both outright.
I agree with the precautionary principle, but from memory the earliest, scariest (for the young) physiologically interesting long covid papers were the heart tissue and lung damage ones, which didn't really stay in good standing as further research and eyes met them.