Mercedes AMG F1 W03

[PlatinumZealot]

Anyway can anyone spot any holes for air flow in here?


then those pipes could possibly be blowing the diffuser..it is a bit disappointing looking at those gills again.. they were having overheating problems last year but not expected the same this year... maybe they are not concentrating on the air flowing around the sidepods but more above them as they have the lowest ones of all the teams this year... just a possibility....

Those gills have nothing to do with overheating, IMHO.[/quote]

Not over heating of the engine, but the gills prevent hot air backing up near the exhaust pipe. The clearance between the body and exhaust pipe is very small. That area is even like a big dead spot for air. Other teams have use other measures to release that pocket of hot air such as large exhaust openings - Lotus Renault, HRT, Force india - williams... etc

[thomin]

I remember some people on this thread talking about 2 pipes exiting the engine cover just above the gearbox.. so now the mystery is finally uncovered..but F-Duct or no F-Duct nothing can substitute pure aero performance..

Those were unrelated.


Anyway can anyone spot any holes for air flow in here?
[img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/sutton/2011/ ... 00.jpg[img]

This confirms that there is no ducting to the front wing. Any such ducting would need to be absolutely air tight! Not to mention quickly disconnecting for in race changes. I see no such fittings on the bulkhead so can we all confirm that there is no Ducting to the front wing from the rear wing? (doesn't rule out FW F-duct though).

The carbon fiber blind could just be there to hide the ducting...

[kris]

Shouldn't there be ducting atleast for the driver cooling?
In absence of any ducting, how does the driver cooling work?

[sAx]

I remember some people on this thread talking about 2 pipes exiting the engine cover just above the gearbox.. so now the mystery is finally uncovered..but F-Duct or no F-Duct nothing can substitute pure aero performance..

Those were unrelated.


Anyway can anyone spot any holes for air flow in here?


then those pipes could possibly be blowing the diffuser..it is a bit disappointing looking at those gills again.. they were having overheating problems last year but not expected the same this year... maybe they are not concentrating on the air flowing around the sidepods but more above them as they have the lowest ones of all the teams this year... just a possibility....

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98035

sAx

[Fredy4]

Interesting picture, I think it probably does rule out an interaction with the FW.

The FW must have its own f-duct thing going on.

Which is better in a way, it means they have TWO systems to gain performance from

[hardingfv32]

Not over heating of the engine, but the gills prevent hot air backing up near the exhaust pipe.

What is wrong with keeping the air around the exhaust system as hot as possible? I am assuming the body can take the high temps.

Brian

[hardingfv32]

Shouldn't there be ducting atleast for the driver cooling?
In absence of any ducting, how does the driver cooling work?

They have a multi layer firesuit on. How much heat exchange do you think is going to take place? Cooling the head would be the most benefit and that is not had to accomplish.

Brian

[hardingfv32]

The FW must have its own f-duct thing going on.

Which is better in a way, it means they have TWO systems to gain performance from :D

IF there is a FWFD it is still lacking an signaling system and a primary air source. The was the beauty of Scrabs idea, it provided a FWFD signal.

Brian

[siskue2005]

Interesting picture, I think it probably does rule out an interaction with the FW.

The FW must have its own f-duct thing going on.

Which is better in a way, it means they have TWO systems to gain performance from

?
if at all there is ducting, it will be well hidden or disguised as something else
looking at those photos no one can defenitly rule out anything!

[Crucial_Xtreme]

?
if at all there is ducting, it will be well hidden or disguised as something else
looking at those photos no one can defenitly rule out anything!

I'm with you on this one. Hard to tell anything definitive from that picture either way.

[King Six]

So if the DRS Duct doesn't go through the car to the front wing, what are Mercedes doing with the airflow?

[hollus]

I remember some people on this thread talking about 2 pipes exiting the engine cover just above the gearbox.. so now the mystery is finally uncovered..but F-Duct or no F-Duct nothing can substitute pure aero performance..

Those were unrelated.


Anyway can anyone spot any holes for air flow in here?
[img]http://www.formula1.com/wi/sutton/2011/ ... 00.jpg[img]

This confirms that there is no ducting to the front wing. Any such ducting would need to be absolutely air tight! Not to mention quickly disconnecting for in race changes. I see no such fittings on the bulkhead so can we all confirm that there is no Ducting to the front wing from the rear wing? (doesn't rule out FW F-duct though).

So, assuming there is no ducting to the front wing, what are the DRS-flap holes connected to?
To any part of the rear wing? Unlikely, slots are in principle forbidden there.
To the bridge wing? Possible, but why do they need a duct from the chassis to the bridge wing, then?
Maybe they are not blowing from the DRS flap, but to the DRS flap. The flap itself still has an airfoil shape and curvature, and hence lower pressure in its (convex) lower side. Is it possible that they are collecting air somewhere in the chassis, routing it through the beam wing and the lateral supports and letting it exit, fully passively, in the low pressure area below the DRS flap? It would also exit perpendicularly to the flow, just messing everything up, which is the general idea of the F-duct.

[ivand911]

Maybe ducting is not installed yet, if they will do it they will do it last. You will never see pipes hanging there. But the openings there can be for that. About gills, there is panel that can be changed with no gills version. With temperatures around 22, I don't expect gills in the race and Q.

[hardingfv32]

So if the DRS Duct doesn't go through the car to the front wing, what are Mercedes doing with the airflow?

Stalling the main element.

Brian

[siskue2005]

Whats the carbon plate colored with yellow question mark?
i have never seen such a thing any other car

and the blue line, whats up with that area? is there anything hidden?

and finally the red circle it seems like a duct coming from the floor?