Mercedes AMG F1 W03

[elf341]

No, thats the new one 100%

if those are the pictures of today!

Might be, cant really see clearly. maybe someone know the difference between the endplates and can confirm? is this from today?

It's not the old one. The endplates are of the new variety. Also, it clearly has the thin second upper cascade.

Although, if my eyes don't deceive me: the R-element looks missing, with a small horizontal wing in its place.

[Gerhardsa]

Last Year's Qualifying Barcelona GP (21/05/2011)

Pole (Mark Webber) - 1:20.981

Q3 Nico Rosberg - 1:22.599 (He did best in the Q2(1:22.569))

Q2 Michael Schumacher - 1:22.671

The grip levels have reduced this year according to S.Vettel, so we can expect the timing to remain the same or slightly lesser this year.

hmm...i dont know if I would buy any lip service Red Bull drivers are giving out at this stage TBH....

[kris]

Last Year's Qualifying Barcelona GP (21/05/2011)

Pole (Mark Webber) - 1:20.981

Q3 Nico Rosberg - 1:22.599 (He did best in the Q2(1:22.569))

Q2 Michael Schumacher - 1:22.671

The grip levels have reduced this year according to S.Vettel, so we can expect the timing to remain the same or slightly lesser this year.

Also qualifying would have been on soft tyres.

[Gerhardsa]

No, thats the new one 100%

if those are the pictures of today!

Might be, cant really see clearly. maybe someone know the difference between the endplates and can confirm? is this from today?

It's not the old one. The endplates are of the new variety. Also, it clearly has the thin second upper cascade.

Although, if my eyes don't deceive me: the R-element looks missing, with a small horizontal wing in its place.

3 guys have mentioned it now thanks. I could not see the R element, so i thought it was the old one.
Honest mistake

[mahesh248f1]

Last Year's Qualifying Barcelona GP (21/05/2011)

Pole (Mark Webber) - 1:20.981

Q3 Nico Rosberg - 1:22.599 (He did best in the Q2(1:22.569))

Q2 Michael Schumacher - 1:22.671

The grip levels have reduced this year according to S.Vettel, so we can expect the timing to remain the same or slightly lesser this year.

hmm...i dont know if I would buy any lip service Red Bull drivers are giving out at this stage TBH....

I am sure Merc AMG F1 is going to be fast this time around , lips service or not

[Mr.S]

Last Year's Qualifying Barcelona GP (21/05/2011)

Pole (Mark Webber) - 1:20.981

Q3 Nico Rosberg - 1:22.599 (He did best in the Q2(1:22.569))

Q2 Michael Schumacher - 1:22.671

The grip levels have reduced this year according to S.Vettel, so we can expect the timing to remain the same or slightly lesser this year.

In a 10-12 Lap run it is for the race not qualifying. I am sure MSC wont use DRS. There is 1-1.5s in between the Hard & Soft. Another 1s for DRS. 2-2.5s in there. And expect atleast 1-1.5s for fuel load.

So expect a 3-4s Lap Faster than what MSC did. They will understand the car more & improve on setups. I think Mercedes can do a lap in the high 1-20's or low 1-21's atleast. Assuming they DID not use DRS for this stint. The car is a HUGE STEP UP from last year.

They did 1-22.5 odd last year.

[mahesh248f1]

Exhaust burns going to cause any problems ?

[Gerhardsa]

indiciations show they are pretty quick, so lets hope so when the sand bags come off in Aus

[Gerhardsa]

Last Year's Qualifying Barcelona GP (21/05/2011)

Pole (Mark Webber) - 1:20.981

Q3 Nico Rosberg - 1:22.599 (He did best in the Q2(1:22.569))

Q2 Michael Schumacher - 1:22.671

The grip levels have reduced this year according to S.Vettel, so we can expect the timing to remain the same or slightly lesser this year.

In a 10-12 Lap run it is for the race not qualifying. I am sure MSC wont use DRS. There is 1-1.5s in between the Hard & Soft. Another 1s for DRS. 2-2.5s in there. And expect atleast 1-1.5s for fuel load.

So expect a 3-4s Lap Faster than what MSC did. They will understand the car more & improve on setups. I think Mercedes can do a lap in the high 1-20's or low 1-21's atleast. Assuming they DID not use DRS for this stint. The car is a HUGE STEP UP from last year.

They did 1-22.5 odd last year.

Very much so... big step, however, i also suspect RB and at least Macca would have taken a step forward. I cant see Merc making a 1.5 second gain on this car, and them not making anything at all. I expect at least 0.5 from them both?
What do you think Mr.S?

[Peetbeat]

Schumacher was fastest overall in S1:. 21.540s
i love to read that

[mahesh248f1]

indiciations show they are pretty quick, so lets hope so when the sand bags come off in Aus

Really hard to say who is sand bagging at the time,the smaller teams are getting faster , SFI is expected to be quick and the car looks quick too .

[VarioR]

[mahesh248f1]

Schumacher was fastest overall in S1:. 21.540s
i love to read that

talking about sand bagging .

[Peetbeat]

Schumacher was fastest overall in S1:. 21.540s
i love to read that

talking about sand bagging .

would you explain it to me in other words =( because im so good in english !dont know what you mean with sand bagging?

[Mr.S]

@ Gerhardsa - Mercedes was around 1.2-1.3 Odd Per Lap slow which varied from 1-1.5s.

But without EBD they would be around 0.8-1s odd Per Lap atleast. Mercedes with their SWB gained much less from RBR or Mclaren. So I think they will gain 0.5 off a second compared to that.

ofcourse both RBR & Mclaren will be looking to improve. But Mercedes have more to improve. Their fat Ugly Sidepods & SWB lost a lot of time. Just sleeker elegant looking Sidepods with a bigger undercut & a LWB will give them more time. RBR does not have HUGE scope for improvement,Mercedes does.


I think given how hard Mercedes have worked on W03 & with their new F-duct if it works properly Mercedes CAN Fight RBR.

Ross Brawn have stated clearly they were looking to challenge & RBR & want 2 race Wins -> MSC's Return Win & Nico's 1st win.