Mercedes AMG F1 W03

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dren wrote:
Agerasia wrote:I'm still intrigued by the compartments on the lower ring wing element that seem to be bolted down.
Can't be the dreaded b word (ballast) as the C of G is too high. Maybe they use different surfaces on them to change the profile slightly or even different textures. I'm surprised texturing isn't actually done already to the surface that needs to retain air (pressure).
I think they are access ports for the DRS mechanism.
I thought they were on the sides.
"badically pressuring rosnerg " Ringo 05/10/2014

Eruuh
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Agerasia wrote: I thought that too :) Birds eye view is the English phrase.
Thanks :D
N12ck wrote:
So its not really a double diffuser at all really,
Nope sry, i just called it that way cause i dont rly know WHAT it is :D

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So do we know what front wing they used for todays race sim?

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Eruuh wrote:
Agerasia wrote: I thought that too :) Birds eye view is the English phrase.
Thanks :D
N12ck wrote:
So its not really a double diffuser at all really,
Nope sry, i just called it that way cause i dont rly know WHAT it is :D
Lets call it a EED, exhaust enhanced diffuser!
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Agerasia
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It will just energise air from the top of the diffuser.
"badically pressuring rosnerg " Ringo 05/10/2014

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swanracing wrote:So do we know what front wing they used for todays race sim?
It's the 2012 version
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Ozan
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I wish Schumacher did a lap on super softs..

Eruuh
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N12ck wrote:
Lets call it a EED, exhaust enhanced diffuser!
perfect!

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Eruuh wrote:
N12ck wrote:
Lets call it a EED, exhaust enhanced diffuser!
perfect!
8) :lol:

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N12ck wrote:Lets call it a EED, exhaust enhanced diffuser!
You heard it here first!

EED it is.
Honda!

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Agerasia wrote:
dren wrote:
Agerasia wrote:I'm still intrigued by the compartments on the lower ring wing element that seem to be bolted down.
Can't be the dreaded b word (ballast) as the C of G is too high. Maybe they use different surfaces on them to change the profile slightly or even different textures. I'm surprised texturing isn't actually done already to the surface that needs to retain air (pressure).
I think they are access ports for the DRS mechanism.
I thought they were on the sides.
That is just a guess. I don't know what else it could be. Perhaps there is something adjustable in there that we don't know about? Maybe the swan neck is blowing into the beam wing and up through the supports to the main?
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issues4
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guys just quickly..and i know this is absolutely futile since this is only testing....i did a quick Excel comparison between the avarage lap op webber and his long run compared to MS and his....since autosports lapcounts were wrong to say the least. I based this on the laps timed on http://f1tests.co.cc/2012.php?rev=on Now i know the tyres were different and we dont know the fuel loads...but here goes:
Webbers avarage laptime over his 59 Lap stint was 1:28,978s (he started on his lap 29 and stopped on his lap 88)
MS's avarage laptime over his 67 Lap stint was 1:29,865 (he started on his lap 55 and stopped on his lap 122)

all according to the timing site.

By the looks of THIS ALONE the merc seems to be 1,085 sec of the pace of RB...offcourse we dont know the fuel loads...
But lets say webber did indeed have 8 laps less fuel than MS based ONLY ON THEIR DIFFERENCE OF LAPS, we could assume that MS was running with 24kg ( 3kg fuel per lap consumption - BBC) more fuel than Webber. Then, by assuming the deficit of carrying an extra 3kg of fuel around barca from 2011, the BBC commantary team claimed 0,32 sec per 10 kg of fuel at this circuit.

So 24kg of extra fuel should yield about 0,8sec (0,32x24/10) worth of laptime right?
so that leaves about a 0,2/3 sec gap down to whatever.

If we take what autosport saif it might be even less (the gap)


AGAIN, this is based on the assumption that they were both equally sandbagging and that the times they were posting were their ultimate speed....which i guess makes absilutely NO SENSE...since this is testing and we dont know what the hell is going on :mrgreen: #-o
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dren wrote:
N12ck wrote:Lets call it a EED, exhaust enhanced diffuser!
You heard it here first!

EED it is.
Yep :D

Along with many other acronyms:
DDD : Double diffuser
EBD: Exhaust Blown diffuser

and its lovechild: EED :Exhaust Enhanced Diffuser
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Eruuh
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dren wrote:
N12ck wrote:Lets call it a EED, exhaust enhanced diffuser!
You heard it here first!

EED it is.

I dont know if it was mentioned in this context but Red Bull seems to have something similar Image


They are hiding their diffusor so strong nvm :D :http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/bild ... ow_item=80
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N12ck wrote:
dren wrote:
N12ck wrote:Lets call it a EED, exhaust enhanced diffuser!
You heard it here first!

EED it is.
Yep :D

Along with many other acronyms:
DDD : Double diffuser
EBD: Exhaust Blown diffuser

and its lovechild: EED :Exhaust Enhanced Diffuser
I don't understand why you guys are calling it an "eed" because the exhaust is pointed upwards at about a 10degree angle.... There is a picture several pages back that shows the exhaust layout without any body work and it's very clear that the exhaust is pointed upwards.