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[LM10]

Nice job team. Upgrade worked and I did not expect anything else.

The pace will only improve with more understanding of the new suspension.

[Space-heat]

The rear seems to have been a jump. The only caveat to the debate regarding MCL's pace is that MCL sacrificed some setup to prepare for the wet conditions (as Charles himself stated). So while super the gap in the dry was only 1-1.5 tenths/per lap, the gap is likely bigger. Early days, and hopefully they can get another 1-1.5 tenths from learning and setup, but MCL is still out of reach.

The real shame is the report from Friday that a planned floor upgrade for around Baku was binned. Reading between the lines pessimistically, it seems like they understood, regardless, they aren't catching MCL's pace, so focus on 26'.

[Space-heat]

Ferrari should have a good shot at winning in HUN.

If you by winning mean finishing first behind the McLarens, then yes. With soaring temps and medium speed corners, the McLarens will be unbeatable.

I would have thought Hungary would be a bad track with a mix of corners, lots of low-speed, long-radius corners. Charles was complaining about the low speed again today, but we will see next week. Probably Monza until we are going to be close again. Merc have fallen, and George even hinted the rear sus needs to be reverted post race, so Podiums are still an option, but the Hungaroring and Zandvoort aren't in my mind going to favour us. Happy to be wrong.

[deadhead]

[f1316]

Piastri’s personal best lap on the second to last lap is more telling than just an average

Not really. He was managing tires like everyone before as he didn’t believe he could get to the end, like he said on the radio, his battery was full and certainly peak performance of the car is higher. But that’s not what race pace is.

Piastri was also literally in a race against someone in the same machinery and a tyre advantage - he was saving some tyre life in case he had to fight off Norris at the end and therefore managing his pace but, make no mistake, he was trying to complete the race in the fastest possible way. When the two of them are racing each other that’s actually the most representative we’ll see of their pace.

Potentially they may not have optimised their setup for the dry but there are swings and roundabouts with that as everyone was making some form of compromise. The race pace was decent from Ferrari, no doubt about it. Not close enough to bother their McLarens but I could see it being a bit closer at other tracks and with more knowledge of how to optimise the suspension.

[CjC]

Piastri’s personal best lap on the second to last lap is more telling than just an average

Not really. He was managing tires like everyone before as he didn’t believe he could get to the end, like he said on the radio, his battery was full and certainly peak performance of the car is higher. But that’s not what race pace is.

A 0 stopper race for dry tyres isn’t a true reflection of race pace either.

[dialtone]

Piastri’s personal best lap on the second to last lap is more telling than just an average

Not really. He was managing tires like everyone before as he didn’t believe he could get to the end, like he said on the radio, his battery was full and certainly peak performance of the car is higher. But that’s not what race pace is.

A 0 stopper race for dry tyres isn’t a true reflection of race pace either.

I’m not sure what that means exactly. People took the gap from the last 30ish laps and averaged. Others said the real gap is the single lap that Piastri did at the end. I’m sorry people are disappointed but taking the average of clean 30 laps of racing is a whole lot closer to the real race pace than anything I know.

Everyone managed tires but everyone was pushing as much as they could because of Lando and Max.

[AR3-GP]

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Albano coming through with the Ferrari cope/propaganda. Not unexpected.

Is he going to ignore that Piastri suddenly showed a lot more speed in the last 5 laps? Everything that we can see shows evidence that Piastri was playing into the gap he had to Norris more than anything, only going as fast as necessary since he wasn't sure if the tires would make it. He had pace in hand.

Lando Norris was on the hardest compound in the range, completely unfit for this track, let alone 25C track temps and was burning up the track even ith mistakes. The gap is not .13s no matter which Italian twitter propaganda page says that it was. It may be closer to 1.3s than it is to .13

There's a lot of people around including drivers who have to lie to themselves because Mclaren's real advantage means you shouldn't bother at all.

[dialtone]

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Albano coming through with the Ferrari cope/propaganda. Not unexpected.

Is he going to ignore that Piastri suddenly showed a lot more speed in the last 5 laps? Everything that we can see shows evidence that Piastri was playing into the gap he had to Norris more than anything, only going as fast as necessary.

If I were Piastri I would also lose 1s per lap from my team mate on better tires for each of the last 10 laps. Makes the racing more comfortable.

[CjC]

Not really. He was managing tires like everyone before as he didn’t believe he could get to the end, like he said on the radio, his battery was full and certainly peak performance of the car is higher. But that’s not what race pace is.

A 0 stopper race for dry tyres isn’t a true reflection of race pace either.

I’m not sure what that means exactly. People took the gap from the last 30ish laps and averaged. Others said the real gap is the single lap that Piastri did at the end. I’m sorry people are disappointed but taking the average of clean 30 laps of racing is a whole lot closer to the real race pace than anything I know.

Everyone managed tires but everyone was pushing as much as they could because of Lando and Max.

I agree is a fair sample to take, 30 laps on one set of medium tyres- it’s an easy equation.

What I was meaning when I said Piastri set his personal best 2 laps from the end- the laptime difference between him and Leclerc is by no means the real race pace, however the fact that Oscar set it so far into his stint suggests he saved his tyres during the stint- making the average close with Leclerc

[CjC]

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Albano coming through with the Ferrari cope/propaganda. Not unexpected.

Is he going to ignore that Piastri suddenly showed a lot more speed in the last 5 laps? Everything that we can see shows evidence that Piastri was playing into the gap he had to Norris more than anything, only going as fast as necessary since he wasn't sure if the tires would make it. He had pace in hand.

Lando Norris was on the hardest compound in the range, completely unfit for this track, let alone 25C track temps and was burning up the track even ith mistakes. The gap is not .13 tenths no matter which Italian twitter propaganda page says that it was. It may be closer to 1.3 than it is to .13

There's a lot of people around including drivers who have to lie to themselves because Mclaren's real advantage means you shouldn't bother at all.

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[ScuderiaLeo]

I don't think the drivers have any delusions about getting close to McLaren, lol

Leclerc said multiple times post race they aren't anywhere near McL still.

[yooogurt]

The rear seems to have been a jump. The only caveat to the debate regarding MCL's pace is that MCL sacrificed some setup to prepare for the wet conditions (as Charles himself stated).

[LM10]

Is he going to ignore that Piastri suddenly showed a lot more speed in the last 5 laps? Everything that we can see shows evidence that Piastri was playing into the gap he had to Norris more than anything, only going as fast as necessary since he wasn't sure if the tires would make it. He had pace in hand.

Laps 39-43 of Piastri:
1:46.498
1:46.326
1:46.144
1:45.933
1:45.706

Laps 39-43 of Leclerc:
1:46.194
1:46.174
1:46.184
1:46.315
1:46.580

Both were managing, as well as all other medium runners because anything else would have been foolish.

[Seanspeed]

Ferrari should have a good shot at winning in HUN.

Hungary will suit Mclaren better than almost any track on the calendar.

Their performance in S2 at Spa is a good indication of the kind of medium speed cornering dominance they have.

Ferrari did well to be 2nd best at Spa, but we're still so far off from the top step. As most reasonable people have pointed out, Piastri had pace in hand. We cant compare average laptimes like that.