Toro Rosso STR12 Renault

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Toro Rosso STR12 Renault

Post by turbof1 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:28 am

This the official car topic about the 2017 Toro Rosso contender, the STR12. The official name is subject to change whether Toro Rosso is going for engine rebranding or not. This thread will handle more stringent rules:

-Absolutely no livery talk in the car topic. Liveries are by nature topics assigned to the team thread, and should be discussed there. Posts about liveries in the car thread will be removed. Livery, sponsoring and any other none-performance hardware features of the car go to the team thread.

-Discussion about the car's hardware only. No discussion about the laptimes (should be discussed in the testing or race threads; test thread is here: http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... =1&t=25963). No speculation or rumors towards future features of the car; no speculation about the competitive performance (car beats car B but car C, etc.). Such discussions will be removed as well.

-Discussion about the Power Unit should belong in its respective PU topic. How the car's chassis and bodywork is adapted to it remains in the car thread, but pure features of the PU don't go there. Since this is quite a grey area, we will not remove transgressions on that front, but will move them when appropiate.

That might sound strict and is infact so, but this is done to safeguard the topic quality. A fair warning that we will be extremely strict this year! If you don't find anything worthwhile to post, please resist the urge and do not post. There is nothing wrong with that and is infact the better option when there's nothing new.

Topic will be opened once the car has been officially launched, which is February the 26th.
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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by proteus » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:34 pm

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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by walter » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:38 pm

the sidepod undercut is very good, allowing for more air volume to the rear diffuser. I like the narrow nose design, I think the bargeboards will help mitigate the effect of the nose variance on the cars this year.

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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by nevill3 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:40 pm

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Image from the Toro Rosso website
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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by nevill3 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:45 pm

Front view from their website too

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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by Yurasyk » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:47 pm

One more hole in a nose.

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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by Predator » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:50 pm

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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by lio007 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:51 pm

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from the back:
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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by Holm86 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:51 pm

walter wrote:the sidepod undercut is very good, allowing for more air volume to the rear diffuser. I like the narrow nose design, I think the bargeboards will help mitigate the effect of the nose variance on the cars this year.
These extreme undercuts seems to have been STR's philosophy the latest years. And as usual they produced at very beautiful looking car. These new colours look good on it too. Great job

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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by lio007 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:57 pm

Just realized, there is no Renault branding on the car, maybe ít will be really rebadged like the TagHeuer-PU.

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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by f1rules » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:59 pm

that is one very beautiful car in my opinion

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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by f1316 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:05 pm

Lovely looking car and the paint job much more on brand than the actual red bull imo.

So the Toro Rosso has both the Merc style nose and front suspension; does that imply that somehow those two things work well together? That the airflow coming off this, lower, nose benefits from a higher upper wishbone? Or just coincidence?

Edit: Big ass monkey seat - also like a Mercedes !
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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by dren » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:06 pm

Another good looking TR car. Lower front wishbones like the old Merceds yet the upper is similar to the W08.
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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by Morteza » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:07 pm

Gorgeous car! As much as I was disappointed by RB's presentation of RB13, I'm very pleased with STR12's launch. Love the new livery as well. Gives the car and team a new character. And is STR Mercedes' B team? :wink: Some similar design cues going on :mrgreen:
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Re: Toro Rosso STR12 Renault (subject to change)

Post by ziggy » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:09 pm

That is how a modern f1 nose has to be done. Bravo TR.