If the incident was between Albon and Stroll for 10th place and Stroll received +5 sceonds, it would not have generated 10 pages of chat of how Stroll was unfairly penalised for a mere racing incident. The whole 'debate' is much ado about nothing.
If the incident was between Albon and Stroll for 10th place and Stroll received +5 sceonds, it would not have generated 10 pages of chat of how Stroll was unfairly penalised for a mere racing incident. The whole 'debate' is much ado about nothing.
Pretty much. It just happened to be one of the new poster boys (Lando, Leclerc, Albon, Russell) and Hamilton, who has plenty of people that dislike him.JordanMugen wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 11:13If the incident was between Albon and Stroll for 10th place and Stroll received +5 sceonds, it would not have generated 10 pages of chat of how Stroll was unfairly penalised for a mere racing incident. The whole 'debate' is much ado about nothing.
Lewis was consistently 3/10ths slower through/out of turn 3 when behind Bottas, which was also the corner he lost out in through quali.Moore77 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 06:15It would be good if Bottas really does hold off Hamilton this season. But this was the same situation after first race last year! Bottas 2.0 turned out to be a dud last year. This is Austria, which is Hamilton's bogey circuit. Since it's return, anyone who wins the Austrian GP, doesn't win the WDC championship. We already saw Bottas losing tyre life when Hamilton pulled out almost 5 seconds off from his lead in a handful of laps. Bottas still cannot manage tyres in races and with additional downforce this year, the tyres (same as last year) are going to be even more loaded in races causing more wear. If not for the early Penalty, SC drama, Bottas would have been in serious trouble in the race.Ringleheim wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 05:27Bottas seems like a new man. Divorced, new woman in his life, renewed energy. If he can substantially raise his game and compete with Hamilton hard, race in and race out, as he did today, it could be for a somewhat interesting season in terms of seeing which Mercedes driver takes the championship.
Luck was on his side this weekend. His mistake triggered the situation that brought penalty for Hamilton in qualifying. Mercedes made an error in judgement for not having changed the tyres in the SC situation and RB pulled a fast one with Albon that created a situation where Albon and Hamilton incident occurred. If Hamilton would have not defended Albon, Bottas would have lost the race. So, not just that the incident happened, but once again Hamilton got a penalty and saved the race for Bottas with Albon's elimination.
That could also be a setup difference, which might have implications, good oe bad, for the rest of the circuit. So chances are it isn't just about changing the approach on one corner.Mchamilton wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 12:08Lewis was consistently 3/10ths slower through/out of turn 3 when behind Bottas, which was also the corner he lost out in through quali.Moore77 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 06:15It would be good if Bottas really does hold off Hamilton this season. But this was the same situation after first race last year! Bottas 2.0 turned out to be a dud last year. This is Austria, which is Hamilton's bogey circuit. Since it's return, anyone who wins the Austrian GP, doesn't win the WDC championship. We already saw Bottas losing tyre life when Hamilton pulled out almost 5 seconds off from his lead in a handful of laps. Bottas still cannot manage tyres in races and with additional downforce this year, the tyres (same as last year) are going to be even more loaded in races causing more wear. If not for the early Penalty, SC drama, Bottas would have been in serious trouble in the race.Ringleheim wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 05:27Bottas seems like a new man. Divorced, new woman in his life, renewed energy. If he can substantially raise his game and compete with Hamilton hard, race in and race out, as he did today, it could be for a somewhat interesting season in terms of seeing which Mercedes driver takes the championship.
Luck was on his side this weekend. His mistake triggered the situation that brought penalty for Hamilton in qualifying. Mercedes made an error in judgement for not having changed the tyres in the SC situation and RB pulled a fast one with Albon that created a situation where Albon and Hamilton incident occurred. If Hamilton would have not defended Albon, Bottas would have lost the race. So, not just that the incident happened, but once again Hamilton got a penalty and saved the race for Bottas with Albon's elimination.
so once Lewis makes that adjustment, Bottas will have no chance this weekend. He was pretty damn poor on race pace before they got the kerb warnings.
We're only talking about Hamilton because the beloved Max didn't last long enough to do anything controversial. Next race will no doubt be different.
And what about Norris, Leclerc, Sainz, Kvyat, Kimi, Vettel? There was so much action!Just_a_fan wrote: ↑06 Jul 2020, 12:39We're only talking about Hamilton because the beloved Max didn't last long enough to do anything controversial. Next race will no doubt be different.
Ok, so it's the anti-Vettel brigade and pure luck on Leclerc his end. Thx for confirming.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑05 Jul 2020, 17:39Well, Vettel is back in 11th or whatever with the same car.
Which driver was that out of interest ?
Vitantonio Liuzzi
Vitantonio Liuzzi
Liuzzi drove four races as second driver for Red Bull Racing in 2005,
2006 as second driver for the new team of Toro Rosso.