Ferrari F2004

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Irvingthien
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Ferrari F2004

Post by Irvingthien » Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:27 pm

Looks like last years car. Rumours that they are having an revolutionary front wing isn't real...visually.Shorter wheel base and the cockpit moved futher back might improve aero efficiency.No large pix tough.

elf
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Post by elf » Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:36 pm

looks like wheelbase is shortened to 3050mm...

akbar21881
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Post by akbar21881 » Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:50 pm

where's the suprise front wing? :(

Beostar
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Post by Beostar » Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:57 pm

What the hell is this???
Btw nice car i must admit :)

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akbar21881
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Post by akbar21881 » Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:09 pm

the sidepod's front is different though.its no longer curvy as the old one and its higher at the front as as well as boxier near the smaller air intake.

the nose is a bit lower,drooped downwards i guess.i feel like it will use a different wing design during testing!!lets wait and see...

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Post by Steven » Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:19 pm

hmmm have you noticed the air outlets in front of the engine exhausts?
Right after the refuel hole, only noticable from the rear I think

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Post by elf » Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:45 pm

there are some nice little details on what I term the F2002/F2003 cross-breed - ie the mirror mountings, complex curves on the diffuser, location and shape of the ventilation exit ducts on the engine cover, cool aero design of the suspension arms... it looks very much like it's predecessor, but it's all in the details with this baby

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Post by elf » Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:51 pm

also notice that the exhausts are canted at an angle from a point above the car (ie makes a ' ^ '). This is opposite of the R24 (which make a ' V '). IMO, overall, the R24 is a similar, but more elegant design.

siztenboots
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New Gearbox regulations ?

Post by siztenboots » Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:12 pm

" The titanium gearbox has seven speeds (plus reverse) and, because of changes to the technical regulations, is operated directly by the driver. "

- operated directly by the driver

I'm not upto date on 2004 regulation changes, but have we returned to manual gbx's again ?

Beostar
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Post by Beostar » Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:20 pm

semi-automatic gearboxed.
You aren't allowed to... not sure either upshift or downshift automaticly.. think its upshift..
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Post by Guest » Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:30 pm

Rory Byrne " 5. Systems: New regulations requiring manual starts and gear shifting as well as the requirement to send information to the new FIA data acquisition system have required an extensive revision to the electronic hardware and software. "

I think you'r correct. Launch control gone, and auto up/downshifts , I would guess.

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Post by elf » Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:40 pm

F2004:
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F2003-GA:
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Post by Guest » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:14 pm

What is significant to me is the way the mirrors are mounted...probably some aero benefits there. But is it legal? Reminds me a little of MP4-18s controversial cockpit opening position, which alledgedly brought some aero advantages...

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Post by Guest » Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:31 pm

Anonymous wrote:What is significant to me is the way the mirrors are mounted...probably some aero benefits there. But is it legal? Reminds me a little of MP4-18s controversial cockpit opening position, which alledgedly brought some aero advantages...
was it that small windscreen in front of the driver that was controversial or what was it ?

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Post by 350plus » Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:46 pm

What is most remarkable in the new ferrari are the details. Altough the new williams finds its beauty in the revolutionary front wing design, the ferrari is clearly a great engineering piece, whatever part you see, you realize that is there to acomplish a function. But let's wait for laptimes to show what it is really worth. Can't wait for Australian GP...