Red Bull RB8 Renault

[hardingfv32]

They're apparently bringing two test crews to allow for less garage downtime.

Are they allowed two test crews? How about two sets of test cars? A relief test driver?

Brian

[raymondu999]

I'm quite sure rhey can bring more test drivers, not sure about cars.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

They're apparently bringing two test crews to allow for less garage downtime.

Are they allowed two test crews? How about two sets of test cars? A relief test driver?

Brian

There is no limit to the amount of crew members allowed to be present during testing. Usually many of the Aerodynamic Engineers are present and other folks. As for the cars, only one is allowed if I'm not mistaken. Same as pre-season testing.

[raymondu999]

One car is allowed on track, but what prevents them from prepping one in the garage while the other one is lapping on track? In Barca 2 the Red Bull B-spec wasn't just an A-spec they kodified, it was a completely different chassis.

[Chuckjr]

They're apparently bringing two test crews to allow for less garage downtime.

Are they allowed two test crews? How about two sets of test cars? A relief test driver?

Brian

There is no limit to the amount of crew members allowed to be present during testing. Usually many of the Aerodynamic Engineers are present and other folks. As for the cars, only one is allowed if I'm not mistaken. Same as pre-season testing.

"As for the cars, only one is allowed"

Who's the friggin' genius who came up with that pathetic rule? Seriously. Some of these testing restrictions are complete cods wallop.

[NonNewtonic]

Base on my understanding on the rules teams could bring parts that can build as many car as they like but they could only set up ONE car on the circuit others must be kept as parts

[Crucial_Xtreme]

One car is allowed on track, but what prevents them from prepping one in the garage while the other one is lapping on track? In Barca 2 the Red Bull B-spec wasn't just an A-spec they kodified, it was a completely different chassis.

Right but remember Horner & Co had to ask the permission of the other teams to fly the new chassis in and use it. Everyone agreed. I don't believe they can have two cars in the garage, prepping one while the other is on track. There wouldn't have been reason to request permission for a new chassis in pre-season no?

[raymondu999]

I remember that with Lotus, but not with Red Bull.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

I remember that with Lotus, but not with Red Bull.

Remember the last Barca test? Red Bull wanted to bring the new exhaust system car, but said they couldn't change the one that started the test in enough time, so Horner & Newey flew down with the brand new chassis.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/03/b ... f-theatre/


The penultimate day of testing before the start of the new F1 season saw a dramatic piece of theatre from Red Bull Racing, who had such a significant upgrade package they needed to ship out a new car to Spain. The real Red Bull RB8 stood up in the pitlane and now the opposition know what they are up against. And by leaving it so late, Red Bull have not given the opposition much time to study their design and copy it.

Under FOTA single car testing rules, this required permission from other teams, which was granted and the car duly ran with Mark Webber at the wheel. Sebastian Vettel will take over for the final day’s testing on Sunday.


Edit: it wasn't the last day, my apologies. Mark ran it one day, then on the last day Seb had problems. My apologies mate.

[raymondu999]

Ah. Must've missed that they needed unanimous approval for it. Thanks.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Ah. Must've missed that they needed unanimous approval for it. Thanks.

No worries it has been a while. The extra crew they're bringing is interesting. There's only so much space on the car to work, it seems they would be tripping over themselves. But I assume there's work for them to do, otherwise they wouldn't be there.
I'm very curious to see these changes which require more hands on deck.

[Forza]

Crucial_Xtreme@ I also presume that they could bring some development parts that require more data acquisitions or mechanical work. But from logistics point of view they could also do double shifts on the car.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

A little nugget I picked up on an AutoSport article this morning: Red Bull runs its simulator live during sessions as a third car to test different configurations Seb & Mark aren't using to see if they're helpful. Pretty interesting.

[raymondu999]

Why wait until fp1? I didn't convey that well, but that was my point. What is so golden about the timing of fp1?

[Lycoming]

I would think that to some degree its reactive based on what they observe from the car during the sessions.