Haas VF16 Ferrari

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by Raleigh » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:08 pm

SF15T origins are clear, but it's still an impressive evolution over last years Ferrari. Compared to some of the other teams (Mclaren etc) the year to year jump is much larger.

Also interesting to contrast with the SF16-H which is an even more radical evolution, the Haas car is somewhere between the two works Ferraris carrying over the same major changes but not quite as advanced in execution.

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by bhall II » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:17 pm

While they're obviously not identical, VF16 follows SF15-T's lines so closely that it needs a small hump on the monocoque in order to accommodate the push rod suspension.

I'm not knocking it, though. It makes no sense for a newcomer to independently design a chassis if the rules don't absolutely demand as much, because no one is awarded points for originality.

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by turbof1 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:34 pm

My post was more intended to move discussion away from the topic of similarities. I guess that failed, so here's a second attempt:

Please keep discussion about the car's hardware functionality, rather than with which car it has the most similarities. Cars are ever more converging towards eachother, so why bother anyway.
#AeroFrodo

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by George-Jung » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:35 pm

Fulcrum wrote:Has there ever been such an "advanced" debut as this?

Also, what's going on with the broken nose?
Exactly what I was thinking.. Impressive car and I like the nose.. estatically it looks great.

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by bdr529 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:37 pm

At first sight I kind of like it, at lest from the 3/4 angle and top view photo, from the side on shot, it's a little uninspired looking.
but I got what I was initially hoping for, 2 more cars on the grid, and we'll see how it goes from here

The inverted flag is a nice touch
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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by kreuzass » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:23 pm

I like the nose. It is some kind of synergy between the W06 and SF15-T nose. Till now the other teams have noses with finger tip or short and thick nose tip. It is not completely fresh and new but - till now - unique in the grid.

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by ChrisDanger » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:39 pm

Just some goals from the team:

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by Blackout » Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:04 pm

Let's enhance
Rad dimension and angle look like last year's Ferrari rads...
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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by MrCelroy » Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:28 pm

bhall II wrote:I originally posted this in the team thread. But, it might be useful here, too.
I've adjusted the perspective of each screenshot to create more natural views.

http://i.imgur.com/aaRNWNE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SiWsNr8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NEBgmlg.jpg
(Click to enlarge)

You can clearly see the influence of the SF15-T in the front wing, barge boards, sidepod inlets, airbox, and in the transition from the nose cone to the chassis. Where they differ is the front suspension, the "Coke bottle" area, and the sidepod turning vanes, of which the last two are more like the early-spec RB11. It also has a short nose.

http://i.imgur.com/dsQsCeT.jpg
(Click to enlarge)

That's an interesting juxtaposition, given Red Bull's eventual adoption of a more Ferrari-like sidepod layout.

http://i.imgur.com/2iU5UxA.jpg
So it turns out we already knew the design of the car since 2015
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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by sgth0mas » Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:31 pm

PlatinumZealot wrote:
Tim.Wright wrote:
PlatinumZealot wrote:Livery is waaaay below expectations IMO they should have left out the black change the haas logos to white with red backsplash.
http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/ ... yCares.gif
Oooh! he expressed an opinion.... Kill him!

It is just the internet don't take things so seriously mmmkay?

http://memesvault.com/wp-content/upload ... ere-08.jpg
Read the 1st post of this thread....

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by Mark4211 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:41 pm

Haas uses a 2015 Ferrari-like steering wheel for 2016.

Comparison with SF15-T's
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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by Mr.G » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:00 pm

If Honda won't be too good this year they may be quite serious this year...
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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by ME4ME » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:15 pm

Video of the car leaving the garage and doing a lap, on Roman Grosjean's facebook page. Must say the PU sounds pretty rough when in the pit-lane. Full throttle it sounds good.

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by stefan_ » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:20 pm

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Re: Haas VF16 Ferrari

Post by Diesel » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:48 pm

Nice tidy looking car. Not pushing the boundaries in any area, more of a safe bet really. I suspect it'll be at the back with the Saubers and might grab the odd point at some races. The bump in the nose is most likely to do with the push-rod suspension geometry.
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