Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:04 am
It amazes me that they go to the effort of building a front wing, body work etc just for one 4-day test knowing that they have this package sat in the factory. None of that was done over the weekend in response to the "doom and gloom" of the first test, that's for sure.

The front wing alone is an entirely new item. They can't just stick new endplates on the old wing as the flaps are now longer. Also, notice that the outboard end of the wing is now lower - the top flap is below the notch in the endplate and so is significantly lower than on the "test 1 wing". So the flaps are differently shaped too. The money invested in that "test 1 wing" for just 4 days of running. That's F1 in a nutshell, right there!

The way the cape intersects with the nose is interesting. Presumably that's going to increase any vortices produced to help further back along the car. New bargeboards and turning vanes in front of, and to the sides of, the sidepod entry. Quite a few changes there.

The sidepods are tighter and reminiscent of the previous design but more so.

Addenda on the floor edge to increase the "sealing effect" of the vortices that are generated by the turning vanes and bargeboards further forward. Perhaps they're going to try to run a bit more rake or perhaps they're just fine tuing the floor sealing from the front tyre wake.

This is a really big package and I would say that it's the W10 A spec., where last week we saw the W10 Beta. No way this is a W10 B spec.
Unless they have differing concepts for different types of races.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:04 am

This is a really big package and I would say that it's the W10 A spec., where last week we saw the W10 Beta. No way this is a W10 B spec.
The car we saw last week was just mule i agree.

Abandoned the nonsensical(imo) endplate they had last week, the new one not only curves in the right direction, it also has the cutoff that Renault and Williams have.

Amazing job with the sidepods, should be a big performance change all things considered.

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Restomaniac wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:17 am
Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:04 am
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Unless they have differing concepts for different types of races.
What like a fast one for races they want to win and a slow one for races they're not bothered about? :wink:

Sorry, couldn't resist! :lol: :lol:
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That is crazy, they are even adding new bits since this morning (the 'ears').

I do not know enough about all the parts. But does any of it hint an an issue they are trying to fix since last week?
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Maybe they wanted to try both endplate concepts and didn't have the current A spec ready? Running the beta spec of last week gave them another week of research and development time... Let's see if they got another upgrade for melbourne in the pipeline.

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This process of Mercedes of bringing two different cars to tests a few days apart, really shows the difference in resources between the guys at the front and the guys at the back. In the time that Williams spent not getting a car ready, Mercedes effectively built two different cars - that's two lots of designing, tooling and production just so they could run different designs in the tests.

There's no way Williams could ever compete with that. The only way they'll win is if there's a massive budget cap or they luck in on a concept that is difficult to see/copy and allows them to jump ahead at the start of a season. Neither is likely, of course.
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That update is quite amazing!

If last week's car and this week's car were side to side with zero branding or identifying colour scheme you'd be hard pressed to conclude they were the same team's car.

Last week's car looks dated already like it was the car that finished last season. that's how big the step is.

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The engineering in this car is just stunning. It's a work of art. I feel if they get their problems sorted it will be a rocket ship.

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This could be a hilarious suggestion but imagine if last week's car was what they came up with at the start of the new regulations, when they lost all the performance, and they wanted to validate they have gone on the right direction so what we see now is the actual developed car. Maybe 1.5sec quicker. That would be pretty hilarious. Toto could have been fooling everyone.

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1st week they validated results
Now comes the "final beta" of the chassis
No doubt for Melburn more changes will be possible
remember that parts that we see today were started for production ~ at least a month ago

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Mercedes introduce new nose and front wing

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Mercedes introduce new nose and front wing

Mercedes have kicked off the second week of testing at Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona by adding a new front end to their W10. Having struggled with front end grip during the first 4 days of testing, the upgrades will come as a welcome addition to Lewis Hamilton and Valtteri Bottas.

As another evolutionary step in Mercedes unique thin nose cone, the team have further narrowed the nose and added some sculpting to improve airflow underneath and over the nose cape that managed airflow underneath and behind the nose. Last year, Mercedes already extended the leading edges of that cape further forward, while this step integrates the entire concept better into the shape of the nose.

In addition to the development of the nose, the team have also added a new front wing, which drops its unique inwash endplates. The team were the only ones to have this design, in what was obviously an early development step just to enable reliability testing.

The new wing has endplates that angle outward, including a cutout at the top to help airflow from the wing to flush over the endplate and around the front wheels. The flaps of the wing meanwhile have mainly changed in the outboard area, converging more towards {Renault}'s solution where the outside drops off to enhance the outwash.

Still, it's a long way apart from the concepts run by {Ferrari}, Alfa Romeo and {Toro Rosso}.

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Oh no it doesn't work like that guys. Hold on.

No matter the resources, the pieces come in batches and are planned well ahead.

The first batch (last week's car) was probably developed a few months ago, they've put the pieces and tried them, run different programs to correlate the data.

The second batch (this week's car) was probably developed just recently, and my guess is that it wasn't fully ready a week ago.

And btw, Hamilton cut the chicane, that's why it was 1.5 faster, so chill.
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