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haza wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:21 am
charliesmithhd wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:10 pm
haza wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:01 pm
I actually was surprised with the nose change I drew a 3D model of something very similar for the MCL-35 though my design had a double flapped cape and 2 openings at the top Sides of the Nose and exit tunnels at the bottom to create a Z-duct
Is it possible to post have a screenshot of it? Seems interesting
I’m still working on the concept but I can give you all an idea on the concept, the idea is for the nose to have 3 openings one at the tip an 2 on the top sides of the nose the idea is for airflow to go through these channels and out of 2 tunnels that exit at the bottom rear of the nose theoretically it should send the airflow through the nose and out the bottom towards the turning vanes and bargeboards and the cape is effectively a double cape that is basically designed to add a small amount of downforce it is still very early designs and I am yet to do CFD Simulations between the current nose and my concept for comparison
I’m hoping to incorporate this concept physically on a chassis I’m building

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haza wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:21 am
charliesmithhd wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:10 pm
haza wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:01 pm
I actually was surprised with the nose change I drew a 3D model of something very similar for the MCL-35 though my design had a double flapped cape and 2 openings at the top Sides of the Nose and exit tunnels at the bottom to create a Z-duct
Is it possible to post have a screenshot of it? Seems interesting
I’m still working on the concept but I can give you all an idea on the concept, the idea is for the nose to have 3 openings one at the tip an 2 on the top sides of the nose the idea is for airflow to go through these channels and out of 2 tunnels that exit at the bottom rear of the nose theoretically it should send the airflow through the nose and out the bottom towards the turning vanes and bargeboards and the cape is effectively a double cape that is basically designed to add a small amount of downforce it is still very early designs and I am yet to do CFD Simulations between the current nose and my concept for comparison
The 2018/2019 nose was actually very similar to this. The central nostril exited at the bottom of the cape, creating a low-pressure zone underneath. The problem with the vented nose philosophy seems to be consistency of airflow and robustness of the structure. The current nose already hangs by a thread on the fw neutral section; if you remove the bulky pillars like on the Mcl35 while creating a hole significant enough for airflow to pass through for aero, then the crash structure is compromised. But if you create holes large enough for aero on a slim nose then you'd have to make the mounts bulky which impede the air and make it inconsistent.

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M840TR wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:47 am
haza wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:21 am
charliesmithhd wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:10 pm


Is it possible to post have a screenshot of it? Seems interesting
I’m still working on the concept but I can give you all an idea on the concept, the idea is for the nose to have 3 openings one at the tip an 2 on the top sides of the nose the idea is for airflow to go through these channels and out of 2 tunnels that exit at the bottom rear of the nose theoretically it should send the airflow through the nose and out the bottom towards the turning vanes and bargeboards and the cape is effectively a double cape that is basically designed to add a small amount of downforce it is still very early designs and I am yet to do CFD Simulations between the current nose and my concept for comparison
The 2018/2019 nose was actually very similar to this. The central nostril exited at the bottom of the cape, creating a low-pressure zone underneath. The problem with the vented nose philosophy seems to be consistency of airflow and robustness of the structure. The current nose already hangs by a thread on the fw neutral section; if you remove the bulky pillars like on the Mcl35 while creating a hole significant enough for airflow to pass through for aero, then the crash structure is compromised. But if you create holes large enough for aero on a slim nose then you'd have to make the mounts bulky which impede the air and make it inconsistent.
I did think about this (fw mounts) and I opted to actually build the wing into the nose instead of hanging on mounts

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haza wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:01 am
M840TR wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:47 am
haza wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:21 am


I’m still working on the concept but I can give you all an idea on the concept, the idea is for the nose to have 3 openings one at the tip an 2 on the top sides of the nose the idea is for airflow to go through these channels and out of 2 tunnels that exit at the bottom rear of the nose theoretically it should send the airflow through the nose and out the bottom towards the turning vanes and bargeboards and the cape is effectively a double cape that is basically designed to add a small amount of downforce it is still very early designs and I am yet to do CFD Simulations between the current nose and my concept for comparison
The 2018/2019 nose was actually very similar to this. The central nostril exited at the bottom of the cape, creating a low-pressure zone underneath. The problem with the vented nose philosophy seems to be consistency of airflow and robustness of the structure. The current nose already hangs by a thread on the fw neutral section; if you remove the bulky pillars like on the Mcl35 while creating a hole significant enough for airflow to pass through for aero, then the crash structure is compromised. But if you create holes large enough for aero on a slim nose then you'd have to make the mounts bulky which impede the air and make it inconsistent.
I did think about this (fw mounts) and I opted to actually build the wing into the nose instead of hanging on mounts
Also the main 2 opening are towards the rear of the nose rather than the tip

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Hello everyone! In the next year we will have fuel and lubricants from Petronas or Gulf?

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Carlen wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:50 pm
Hello everyone! In the next year we will have fuel and lubricants from Petronas or Gulf?
Hi Carlen. This thread is to discuss the MCL35

The thread to discuss anything else about Mclaren is the team thread viewtopic.php?f=15&t=28681&start=4305

The answer is however Petronas, Gulf will however supply lubricants to every new McLaren road car

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the EDGE wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:01 pm
Carlen wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:50 pm
Hello everyone! In the next year we will have fuel and lubricants from Petronas or Gulf?
Hi Carlen. This thread is to discuss the MCL35

The thread to discuss anything else about Mclaren is the team thread viewtopic.php?f=15&t=28681&start=4305

The answer is however Petronas, Gulf will however supply lubricants to every new McLaren road car
Ok. Thanks for the answer

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That’s a good article... Thanks for posting!


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So basically similar concept as Mercedes

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Interesting Flow....

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Most likely, this is the profile of the nose itself, and the paint just spread over it.

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_cerber1 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:20 pm
Most likely, this is the profile of the nose itself, and the paint just spread over it.
He's talking about the airflow in the flow-vis. You can actually see the airflow in the paint (flow-vis).

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no pitlane pics yet??

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