notsofast wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:28 pm
Sulman wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:15 am
- Senior members are usually every bit as bad as shitposters/trolls/flamebaiters. Often they are the worst.
west52keep64 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:33 pm
Post something that ultimately gets moderated, lose a point. Keep doing it and enjoy your negative rating.
Senior members can help the volunteer mods by not trolling and not taking the bait. There will never not be someone who is wrong on the internet. Just ignore them.
There will always be someone posting content that would go against the sensibilities of one or more people. That doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong and I guess that is why, mods choose not to take action or remove content which infuriates those who sensibilities are hurt. I have experienced it too, just like most others. When more such people come together, it becomes a bigger noise without a good reason. Posts that are outright disrespectful to each other, aggressive tone/language towards each other, abuvise, racist and xenophoebic, need to be acted upon, which does get acted upon, but may be more action is needed (may be mods do more in the background which is not apparent, as I have received warnings too which no one would know) and that is where the title of this thread is apt.
The first part of the post above is a classic problem of the forum. Seniors members getting carried away, falling for baits and unable to ignore such posts. Human nature is to increase negative behavior when confronted aggressively. It's a demon that grows with aggressive confrontation. Anyone that thinks I can stop people post content that I don't like, are attempting it in vain. It increases toxicity on the forum.
I have seen many people saying the forum is meant to be technical and is dead because of latest wave of new people having come and having a field day, which is natural, all thanks to a season like 2021. The reality is, there was always toxicity on the forum as was demonstrated in any grand prix where there was an incident between title protagonists. Examples like 2014 Monaco, 2016 Spain, Austria, 2018 Canada (i opened those thead to glance through, oh god) comes to mind as the most recent ones. The footprint was relative less back in those days and hence the toxicity seemed relatively less too. We haven't had consistent years of a strong title fight between different drivers and teams, which also is a reason for largely quiet periods in the past decade. Even when fights happened, most non Mercedes folks stay away, leaving only Rosberg and Hamilton fans to spar. This year has been different in that sense. I won't be surprised to see a 2021 like behavior continuing on this forum if we keep having racing years with a similar theme to 2021.
There are only a fraction of members here who have technical backgrounds and converse on technical matters. Mostly they are restricted to core technical threads. Most people that languish (me included) in race and team threads aren't adding to the technical nature of the forum. But footprint is equally important to the sustainability of any forum. Hosting and managing a site like this is a mammoth commercial affair. Every site grows overtime and attracts footprint of all sorts, beneficial to the objective of the site in multiple ways but also inducing a lot of headache. I am not sure of the commercial viability of this site and if moderators are also commercially beneficial. It's hard to do a honorary job of being a mod to go through such vile and venomous toxicity for long durations. If there is a commercial benefit for being a mod, then the question is how many moderators can the owners afford. It's easy for individuals to be excited to come forward and say, I am ready to do it on a honorary basis. But sustaining such enthusiasm would probably be a nightmare. A mod will be split as a fan and then as a mod and that dual mentality can cause severe stress. A thankless job where no one thinks the mods are right. Even if it is a paid job, it's going to kill you psychologically.
We all can expect a better world, but how much are we willing to try and mend our own uncontrollable behaviors for it? If you expect it be done by others, because you think you are right, it's the same situation on the other side too. More moderators? Probably yes. Better behavior of members (me included)? Definitely yes.