He could have advised them to copy it becaues he thought it was "the best concept". So they got an early start, and now they have him to coach them through the development.BlueCheetah66 wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 7:58 pmI'm not so sure it is. He only started work at Aston Martin at the start of April. I don't know how long it would have taken to redesign the car to a different teams design, but it seems too soon. However, that could explain why it is basically a carbon copy and not adapted to their own car designmorefirejules08 wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 7:46 pmPretty sure AM didn’t copy RB’s car in just 3 months. I would suggest it has more to do with a particular aero engineer moving from one team to the other.organic wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 7:24 pm
Well previously this team copied a 2019 car for the 2020 season, whereas here they've gone one better and copied the RB 2022 for the 2022 season; one can assume a frontrunner of the previous season would not be the front in the following year through development rate of other teams, but that's not the case for a current fast car being copied.
Can't believe they copied Red Bull's sidepods! This is not just copying a design concept! They copied to the point where you can't even find any difference between RB's and AM's sidepods...
Tbf to them the first time was more to buy them extra time and resources for these regulation changes. COVID kinda ruined that plan for them.AMG.Tzan wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 8:16 pmCan't believe they copied Red Bull's sidepods! This is not just copying a design concept! They copied to the point where you can't even find any difference between RB's and AM's sidepods...
Although copying another team's ideas isn't new or bad by any means...copying it to such an extent while also having done exactly the same thing 2 years ago, just makes Aston Martin look like a small inexperienced team!
Copying your rival will get you closer to the top, but it will never get you to the top! Aston Martin has to realize this sometime in the near future, because otherwise Stroll's money and investments in new facilities won't help get them to the top...
Are you saying Dan Fellows carried a dossier of RedBull drawings to Aston Martin?AR3-GP wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 7:42 pmWhy would they need photos? They have RB's aero chief from last season.
No I'm not saying anybody made copies of dossiers at Fedex print shop. I'm just saying it would be like Adrian Newey wearing a Mercedes shirt next week. The ideas in his head are still his. He's still going to build the same kind of car no matter what team's shirt he wears.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 9:53 pmAre you saying Dan Fellows carried a dossier of RedBull drawings to Aston Martin?AR3-GP wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 7:42 pmWhy would they need photos? They have RB's aero chief from last season.
You need photos. Every now and then I reverse engineering myself (both machines and structures) and photos, lots of photos are key to that process.
The RedBull aero chief can advise them how to it works and what to expect but he won't have any drawings with him. And he is not allowed to recreate the design even from memory.