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This race track resembles to Baku and most probably to Saudi one.
On both races the had C2,C3 and C4 but here they went softer as in Monaco with C3,C4 and C5.
At Monaco it was easily a C5-C4 1-stop race so it seems to be the same story here although due to lower temps we should see some graining at the beginning of the stints so it could be a M-H 1 stop maybe for some drivers here but most of all will probably do a S-M-S 2-stop race.

Now regarding setup for the race I presume HAM sacrificed the qualy for the race pace and due to his position on the grid he`ll forced to manage a 1-stop race
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Congrats to Mercedes team, they got Max the win today by demanding the penalty for Sainz, well done Toto, well done! =D> =D> =D> I love how it bites him back every time he whines and bemoans
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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organic wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:44 am
Lewis won't score points IMO. The fp3 long run was woeful and now not even a good starting position. With Perez and potentially Sainz behind I could see him going backwards rather than forwards.

3rd Q2 elim for Lewis this year, his performance is a bit more variable than russell it seems
Another --- prediction

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Venturiation wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:37 am
organic wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:44 am
Lewis won't score points IMO. The fp3 long run was woeful and now not even a good starting position. With Perez and potentially Sainz behind I could see him going backwards rather than forwards.

3rd Q2 elim for Lewis this year, his performance is a bit more variable than russell it seems
Another --- prediction
I'll take it 8) Can't get them all right

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Venturiation wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:37 am
organic wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:44 am
Lewis won't score points IMO. The fp3 long run was woeful and now not even a good starting position. With Perez and potentially Sainz behind I could see him going backwards rather than forwards.

3rd Q2 elim for Lewis this year, his performance is a bit more variable than russell it seems
Another --- prediction
It was not looking great before the last safety car. He cut his own tire on Piastri.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:36 am
Congrats to Mercedes team, they got Max the win today by demanding the penalty for Sainz, well done Toto, well done! =D> =D> =D> I love how it bites him back every time he whines and bemoans
How about you stop crying and make a better car?
blaming a team for the FIA regulations, sore loser

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:36 am
Congrats to Mercedes team, they got Max the win today by demanding the penalty for Sainz, well done Toto, well done! =D> =D> =D> I love how it bites him back every time he whines and bemoans
You do know none of that has any slightest connection to reality. Not sure why you keep repeating something that has nothing to do with Toto.

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Spoutnik wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:55 pm
organic wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:44 am
Lewis won't score points IMO. The fp3 long run was woeful and now not even a good starting position. With Perez and potentially Sainz behind I could see him going backwards rather than forwards.

3rd Q2 elim for Lewis this year, his performance is a bit more variable than russell it seems
I think Lewis will end up ahead of Russell and around the podium honestly. This race will be chaos
Wonder what it would've been without the puncture.
Probably P4

Before the incident with Piastri, he was ahead of Perez !
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f1jcw wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:38 am
Vanja #66 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:36 am
Congrats to Mercedes team, they got Max the win today by demanding the penalty for Sainz, well done Toto, well done! =D> =D> =D> I love how it bites him back every time he whines and bemoans
You do know none of that has any slightest connection to reality. Not sure why you keep repeating something that has nothing to do with Toto.
He is trying to blame every --- performance of Ferrari on mercedes, he is just sad that Ferrari never won a title even with superior cars for 15 years.
Last year the failed another title with the fastest car and this year again can't make a title winning car

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Spoutnik wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:39 am
Spoutnik wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:55 pm
organic wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:44 am
Lewis won't score points IMO. The fp3 long run was woeful and now not even a good starting position. With Perez and potentially Sainz behind I could see him going backwards rather than forwards.

3rd Q2 elim for Lewis this year, his performance is a bit more variable than russell it seems
I think Lewis will end up ahead of Russell and around the podium honestly. This race will be chaos
Wonder what it would've been without the puncture
Lewis would have gotten at least a podium for sure, he dropped to 14th, got back up to 6th? iirc then got a puncture, dropped to 19th and then back up again to 8th (with quite a lot of them being overtakes) before Russell's penalty

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Luscion wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:42 am
Spoutnik wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:39 am
Spoutnik wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:55 pm


I think Lewis will end up ahead of Russell and around the podium honestly. This race will be chaos
Wonder what it would've been without the puncture
Lewis would have gotten at least a podium for sure, he dropped to 14th, got back up to 6th? iirc then got a puncture, dropped to 19th and then back up again to 8th (with quite a lot of them being overtakes) before Russell's penalty
Yes, he was ahead of Perez so probably would've fight for the podium.

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On another note. Ferrari is now 4pts behind in the WCC.

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Surprisingly this track provides such a good race. What could have been for Merc, definitely didn't maximize the results today. Frustrating.

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Hammerfist wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:47 am
Surprisingly this track provides such a good race. What could have been for Merc, definitely didn't maximize the results today. Frustrating.
Both drivers very clumsy as has been the case since Monza really.

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AR3-GP wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:48 am
Hammerfist wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:47 am
Surprisingly this track provides such a good race. What could have been for Merc, definitely didn't maximize the results today. Frustrating.
Both drivers very clumsy as has been the case since Monza really.
I don't think Lewis is at fault on the Piastri incident, and he was hit at the start... So I think he did a pretty decent job to recover from this
Russell it's more questionable imo on the incident