2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Las Vegas, Nov 16 - 18

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What a race. But I'm gutted for Charles. Another pole position not converted. Not a record you want on your resume. He really got unlucky today, would have won without the safety car. Bummer.

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Great race IMO. Funny to look back in this thread and seeing people fervently sure that wouldn't be the case.

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JPower wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:55 am
Great race IMO. Funny to look back in this thread and seeing people fervently sure that wouldn't be the case.
One of the better circuits for racing based on that :D

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FittingMechanics wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:41 am
And like Toto said - come Sunday no one will remember the drain cover.

Track looks to be decent for racing. Good news if we are about to get it for next 10 years.
No one would remember Wolff, If it weren't for his cringe radio messages to George.

It was a great race. Can't go wrong with massive straights and DRS. Still a boring track though.

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mendis wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:13 am
Why is it that every new circuit is criticised to death, only to see it as an entertaining thing that we want more of it. Singapore, Baku, Saudi, Abu Dhabi, Miami etc., Even Vietnam, which didn't happen in the end. Saudi was dubbed as a death trap because of enclosure and high speed. It turned out to be a fascinating circuit offering great racing. Give it a break and give it a chance. Vegas is a new adventure for modern cars and drivers to adapt to new demands. Let's see how this turns out before criticizing it.

Get rid of that lousy Monaco.
I am glad I was not wrong. The circuit delivered great racing and having these colder temperatures actually worked for a lot of teams that aren't great in ambient and higher than ambient temperatures.

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Only reason the circuit delivered decent racing was because of a monsterous long straight.

It would be interesting to see a overtaking hot spot map.

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it was still not a bad race, I'd think.

Did Verstappen win because of the collision with Russell in the end, though, or do you think he would have taken it without the safety car as well? It didn't gain him any positions, of course, but before, his tires were 5 laps older than Leclerc's, afterwards 5 laps fresher. So it could have made the difference.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:41 am
And like Toto said - come Sunday no one will remember the drain cover.

Track looks to be decent for racing. Good news if we are about to get it for next 10 years.
Sainz will remember :D

Race: Just great. As always anticipated. At least by me. Calculating the money now....

Interesting and not yet discussed: How did they f*** up Piastri? What was that with 7? laps to go? Why did they wait with the stop until it was over? And not stop under SC???
Don`t russel the hamster!

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search wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:07 am
it was still not a bad race, I'd think.

Did Verstappen win because of the collision with Russell in the end, though, or do you think he would have taken it without the safety car as well? It didn't gain him any positions, of course, but before, his tires were 5 laps older than Leclerc's, afterwards 5 laps fresher. So it could have made the difference.
This track is very short and the deg on Verstappen's hard tire was not big. I think he would have caught and passed Leclerc. The gap was only around 2-3 seconds before the final SC.

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:19 am
organic wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:16 am
GrizzleBoy wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:15 am


Nah this place socks.

It's all about the show, nothing to do with racing.

Should cancel for next year.

Etc.
I rescind my vegas slander
I'm surprised myself to be honest.

This is the first time I can remember in a while that cars can follow nose to tail for almost the whole race.
Low downforce setups, maybe?

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AR3-GP wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:09 am
search wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:07 am
it was still not a bad race, I'd think.

Did Verstappen win because of the collision with Russell in the end, though, or do you think he would have taken it without the safety car as well? It didn't gain him any positions, of course, but before, his tires were 5 laps older than Leclerc's, afterwards 5 laps fresher. So it could have made the difference.
This track is very short and the deg on Verstappen's hard tire was not big. I think he would have caught and passed Leclerc. The gap was only around 2-3 seconds before the final SC.
He just went from 6 laps older tires to 5 fresher, no difference at all...

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That race was great.

The temps helped it, so I think they'll need to keep it at this time of night

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nico5 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:15 am
AR3-GP wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:09 am
search wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:07 am
it was still not a bad race, I'd think.

Did Verstappen win because of the collision with Russell in the end, though, or do you think he would have taken it without the safety car as well? It didn't gain him any positions, of course, but before, his tires were 5 laps older than Leclerc's, afterwards 5 laps fresher. So it could have made the difference.
This track is very short and the deg on Verstappen's hard tire was not big. I think he would have caught and passed Leclerc. The gap was only around 2-3 seconds before the final SC.
He just went from 6 laps older tires to 5 fresher, no difference at all...
My comment was with regards to Verstappen being on 5 lap older tires and the RB have very good tire wear. I don't know what you are asking.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:37 am
Give Charles the car and a semi-decent team and he eats the whole field for breakfast, Master!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: =D> =D> =D> =D>

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200 iQ move by Verstapen to try and pass Russell right before a huge DRS straight!

Thankfully Lady Luck took care of him once more and he didn’t end up with a puncture or something…

He can’t seem to battle without pushing the other one off the track or hitting him…
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