Silly season 2024-2025

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 11:13 am
Gillian wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 10:04 am
So Sainz would be such an improvement over Perez that it could cost Verstappen the WDC?
The right question is - why risk it?
And that's the point. You might perceive it as a risk where I would say it's not. I think Sainz is more consistent and less error prone than Perez, but certainly not at the level of Verstappen.

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SAI is probably not too eager to have HUL as his teammate considering how that went the last time they drove the same car...

Looking forward to that battle if it comes to fruition!


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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 1:28 pm
What if Red Bull isn't superior next season, and Pérez is battling in the midfield while Max is battling for wins? Next season, Sainz won't be available anymoore.
Russell will be available though. Therefore Red Bull are not worried. :)

It could just be because of the 2016 politics by the Sainz camp and even after that Red Bull observing more politics at Ferrari (Sainz and/or sponsors attempting to get the car adjusted to have more understeer in 2022, with Sainz maneuvering to be able to beat Leclerc), that Sainz's Red Bull chance is gone unfortunately.

Red Bull is probably concerned that the Sainz camp will go the Spanish press and spread rumours about unequal cars if (or when) Verstappen is much faster than Sainz. :| It looks like as the Ferrari has removed understeer with new developments, that Leclerc has gained his pace advantage over Sainz again...

Perez (or Sainz's) preferences are famously not a consideration in Red Bull car development. Would Sainz complain about that to the Spanish press?

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JordanMugen wrote:
Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 1:28 pm
What if Red Bull isn't superior next season, and Pérez is battling in the midfield while Max is battling for wins? Next season, Sainz won't be available anymoore.
Russell will be available though. Therefore Red Bull are not worried. :)

It could just be because of the 2016 politics by the Sainz camp and even after that Red Bull observing more politics at Ferrari (Sainz and/or sponsors attempting to get the car adjusted to have more understeer in 2022, with Sainz maneuvering to be able to beat Leclerc), that Sainz's Red Bull chance is gone unfortunately.
Russell has a contract until 2026. I'm not sure who has the option for 2026, Mercedes or Russell. Russell is in a good position at Merc, so why would he switch to Red Bull and risk being outperformed by Verstappen? Red Bull previously attempted to recruit Norris but was unsuccessful, despite McLaren being a shitbox at that time.

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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 3:34 pm
JordanMugen wrote:
Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 1:28 pm
What if Red Bull isn't superior next season, and Pérez is battling in the midfield while Max is battling for wins? Next season, Sainz won't be available anymoore.
Russell will be available though. Therefore Red Bull are not worried. :)

It could just be because of the 2016 politics by the Sainz camp and even after that Red Bull observing more politics at Ferrari (Sainz and/or sponsors attempting to get the car adjusted to have more understeer in 2022, with Sainz maneuvering to be able to beat Leclerc), that Sainz's Red Bull chance is gone unfortunately.
Russell has a contract until 2026. I'm not sure who has the option for 2026, Mercedes or Russell. Russell is in a good position at Merc, so why would he switch to Red Bull and risk being outperformed by Verstappen? Red Bull previously attempted to recruit Norris but was unsuccessful, despite McLaren being a shitbox at that time.
The only way Russell ends up at Red Bull is if Max leaves.

But it would make for good racing to see them both on the same team.

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Why Red Bull even signed Perez for this year is a big question. He could cost the team the WCC again

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TeamKoolGreen wrote:
Sat May 25, 2024 3:59 pm
Why Red Bull even signed Perez for this year is a big question. He could cost the team the WCC again
It will be that way. Look at Ferrari and Mclaren drivers. They are there together with each other. Perez has started his period of lacking behind by a considerable margin.

RBR need to bite the bullet and sign Sainz. Id rather have Bottas than Perez at the minute. Now its getting closer, they need to seriously consider the 2nd driver so they can work as a team and fight for WCC rather than Max being single handily scoring 90% of the points.

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chrisc90 wrote:
Sat May 25, 2024 6:36 pm
TeamKoolGreen wrote:
Sat May 25, 2024 3:59 pm
Why Red Bull even signed Perez for this year is a big question. He could cost the team the WCC again
It will be that way. Look at Ferrari and Mclaren drivers. They are there together with each other. Perez has started his period of lacking behind by a considerable margin.

RBR need to bite the bullet and sign Sainz. Id rather have Bottas than Perez at the minute. Now its getting closer, they need to seriously consider the 2nd driver so they can work as a team and fight for WCC rather than Max being single handily scoring 90% of the points.
Yeah. They basically need Sainz. It should be considered a gift that he got shaken out of Ferrari. So what are they waiting for then ? He should have been signed already.

Helmut Marko and his little personal grudges are probably getting in the way again. Gasly probably isn't in the cards either for the same reason. If it really was about winning and not petty interpersonal politics, then one of these guys should be signed and Perez shouldn't even be considered an option.

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Seems Perez renewal is imminent

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pere ... /10616482/

However, sources with good knowledge of the situation insist that the squad believes that Perez is the best candidate available right now that can work alongside the world champion.

With Red Bull not believed to be considering promoting Yuki Tsunoda from RB, and with it understood to have told Carlos Sainz that he is not a candidate, all the indications are that the team is set on keeping Perez on board.

Equally he does not cause political issues within the squad and he ensures a comfortable working environment for his team-mate.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 11:56 am
Seems Perez renewal is imminent
Max is already under pressure, now the car advantage has disappeared. He won’t want a teammate adding more pressure, so this is no surprise.

I would have said it’s disappointing for the fans/sport, but we could now be past that point of RB domination during this reg, and Perez staying at RB and being uncompetitive, actually doesn’t matter anymore. The fight is coming from elsewhere now.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 11:56 am
Seems Perez renewal is imminent

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pere ... /10616482/

However, sources with good knowledge of the situation insist that the squad believes that Perez is the best candidate available right now that can work alongside the world champion.

With Red Bull not believed to be considering promoting Yuki Tsunoda from RB, and with it understood to have told Carlos Sainz that he is not a candidate, all the indications are that the team is set on keeping Perez on board.

Equally he does not cause political issues within the squad and he ensures a comfortable working environment for his team-mate.
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I don't get why:

- SAI is still not signed somewhere. Mercedes should hire him... and put Antonelli instead of Sargeant.
- PER will be renewed at RBR. Ok, he is number 2 with no issues, but this is meaning they are counting only on Max, they need a better second driver.

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DGP123 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 12:08 pm
Max is already under pressure, now the car advantage has disappeared. He won’t want a teammate adding more pressure, so this is no surprise.

I would have said it’s disappointing for the fans/sport, but we could now be past that point of RB domination during this reg, and Perez staying at RB and being uncompetitive, actually doesn’t matter anymore. The fight is coming from elsewhere now.
I wouldn't be in Horner's place right now. On one hand, Perez is a known quantity, on the other he's on another slump it seems. Very likely Canada performance will have a big impact.

No one can guarantee that the replacement will do much better in no time (even Sainz), while Perez might even completely drop all motivation and just cruise for the rest of the season before retirement. Replacing Perez mid season 2024 would be the worst choice.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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codetower wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:41 pm
I still think Red Bull may end up promoting Yuki into that 2nd seat, and add someone like Lawson into the VCARB seat. As far as Sainz, it does look like Audi is his best (only?) option.
Lawson deserve a seat indeed. But Yuki is good and will not go to RBR and they want to keep RIC for some reasons.

I'm curious about Haas, I believe they are targeting OCO... and then I don't know who else
And Alpine, not clear, this year is not good, but I believe this is a better option than Stake, Vcarb, Haas or Williams for 2025 and 2026

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There is a video circulating on YouTube that suggests Perez is going to Andretti…

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