2025 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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DJ Downforce wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 13:02


If this is true, it shows how out of touch and pathetic Wolff is. You think waving money at the kid is gonna solve things??

I think it's time for Wolff to move on, though I'm sure the PU division will save his ass next year
Like I said, Toto has completely lost the plot. I honestly think the fame and celebrity status have gotten to his head, it’s full of it. And it doesn’t help when everyone around him keeps telling him what a hot piece of cake he is. He’s flying too close to the sun, and when you do… you get burned. If he’s not careful, he’s going to end up like Horner. That’s what happens when your ego takes over everything.

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And now his wet dream of getting Verstappen is gone as he's staying with Red Bull for 26. Back to grovelling over George.

Would be funny if George double crossed him and signed with Aston :lol:

Btw James Allison literally knew that bringing in Kimi this year was too early as documented in "the seat". Maybe he should take the reigns as TP

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Without Nikki's present, Toto's now surrounded by YESMEN. They lost a ton of talent like: Andy Cowell, James Vowels, Mike Elliot, Serra, Blandin, Hodgkinson...

I'm not confident for 26's onward. They need a huge team revamp. They need a 2012 -> 2021 dream team V2 again. Lets Make Mercedes Great Again: #MMGA
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From @MercedesAMGPCF1 on X

🚨 George 🗣️ : “We’re going to have a meeting[This week] with all the engineers and design engineers to figure out how we’ve gone backwards()…”

“Kimi and I are collectively making more mistakes because the car is more challenging to drive.”

“We need to sit down as a team. As I say, it may be as simple as reversing back on some of the changes we've made, but in F1 it's never that simple.”



So George basically is indicating, that an emergency meeting is being held at Mercedes, for not only the team, but the manufacturer. This was desperately needed since 2023. There is going to be some massive rearranging, and some engineers jobs are on the line.

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Lasssept wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 18:48
blah blah blah :roll:

The great news is that it can only be better in Hungary !

Hard to do worst than the results this weekend :lol: we had absolutely no pace, hard car to drive & both set ups were so slow!! (on the wet and on the dry tarmac #-o pathetic really)

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Witnessing those gaps in real life was heart breaking as a Merc fan. Merc needs new blood in the technical department.

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Without the "pressure of lewis" the team sure are doing well... NOT!

Seriously, people who thought the team would do better without lewis pressuring them with his expectations are insane.

Sadly, their aero team will be bailed out with a monster PU courtesy of Mercedes HPP. George deserves a shot at the title

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OverheatedTurbo wrote:
27 Jul 2025, 23:50
Witnessing those gaps in real life was heart breaking as a Merc fan. Merc needs new blood in the technical department.
They've certainly never gotten on top of these new regs, but they still have so much of the 'blood' from their dominating years that they have the potential to come roaring back in 2026 with less ground effect and new engines. As a Ferrari fan, they scare me as much as Mclaren.

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DJ Downforce wrote:
28 Jul 2025, 00:11
Without the "pressure of lewis" the team sure are doing well... NOT!

Seriously, people who thought the team would do better without lewis pressuring them with his expectations are insane.

Sadly, their aero team will be bailed out with a monster PU courtesy of Mercedes HPP. George deserves a shot at the title
I’m yet to be convinced that Mercedes can outdo McLaren in the aero and chassis dept, so that monster PU, if true, is no guarantee that George gets a shot. Hopefully he does though!!
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Spa is a circuit where Hamilton was faster than Russell in every year that they were teammates. So I don't think Russell is that great on this track. Last year, Hamilton outqualified and out raced him until Merc double crossed Hamilton with Russell's 1 stop. post-race karma righted the wrong...That simply begs the question of how we know that Russell has extracted the full potential of this weekend? This was my biggest problem with Hamilton leaving this team. Russell had a habit of consuming the tires more quickly than Hamilton. The entire 2023 season was shocking and Abu Dhabi 2024 was only half a year ago where Hamilton came from the back rows of the grid and passed Russell on the last lap. I have never been able to get out of the back of my mind this nagging question of where Hamilton's race pace would put a Mercedes on Sunday.

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Next week in Hungary I'll ask myself the same thing. Hamilton was a Hungaroring specialist. He had Russell's number every year on this track. Therefore I'm tempted to imagine Hamilton being a bit further up the road from wherever Russell manages to qualify and finish. Of course no one is touching Mclaren, but I suspect Spa and Hungary are not as bad for Mercedes as the current drivers will make it look.
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DJ Downforce wrote:
28 Jul 2025, 00:11
Without the "pressure of lewis" the team sure are doing well... NOT!

Seriously, people who thought the team would do better without lewis pressuring them with his expectations are insane.

Sadly, their aero team will be bailed out with a monster PU courtesy of Mercedes HPP. George deserves a shot at the title
What are you even on about? Hamilton has been a total flop these past few years, just like the rest of them. “Pressure from Lewis”? What pressure? The guy spent all of 2023 telling everyone “I told them to change the car”, they listened, changed it based on his feedback… and it was still a complete pile of crap.

Let’s be real: the last thing this team needs is Lewis and his washed-up diva energy dragging them down even more. He’s over at Ferrari failing miserably while pocketing 100 million a year for doing absolutely nothing. Dude’s living off past glory and hype. I swear, his PR team could sell sand in a desert best scammers in the game.

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AR3-GP wrote:
28 Jul 2025, 08:22
Spa is a circuit where Hamilton was faster than Russell in every year that they were teammates. So I don't think Russell is that great on this track. Last year, Hamilton outqualified and out raced him until Merc double crossed Hamilton with Russell's 1 stop. post-race karma righted the wrong...That simply begs the question of how we know that Russell has extracted the full potential of this weekend? This was my biggest problem with Hamilton leaving this team. Russell had a habit of consuming the tires more quickly than Hamilton. The entire 2023 season was shocking and Abu Dhabi 2024 was only half a year ago where Hamilton came from the back rows of the grid and passed Russell on the last lap. I have never been able to get out of the back of my mind this nagging question of where Hamilton's race pace would put a Mercedes on Sunday.

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Next week in Hungary I'll ask myself the same thing. Hamilton was a Hungaroring specialist. He had Russell's number every year on this track. Therefore I'm tempted to imagine Hamilton being a bit further up the road from wherever Russell manages to qualify and finish. Of course no one is touching Mclaren, but I suspect Spa and Hungary are not as bad for Mercedes as the current drivers will make it look.
No amount of tyre management was going to put that W16 further than P6/P7. The car took P5 because Lewis was eliminated in Q1 during qualifying and was out of position as a result. Had that not happened, then Russell would have likely finished P6. The Merc this weekend was the 4th fastest car since the start of the weekend. If you hear Kimi’s interview, he mentioned that the car now has some bad handling characteristics that was either induced by setup or an upgrade. Judging Russells’ comments, I’m leaning on the latter.