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dialtone wrote:
18 Aug 2025, 00:54
Seanspeed wrote:
If we were to limit this topic to things we can only prove as fact, it'd have to be limited to objectively noticeably photos showing visual differences and nothing more. Nobody would be allowed to talk about what they think those changes might mean or anything, cuz that's all speculative.

Also, as far as the specific context here, there was plenty of technical context surrounding the theory about tire pressures. Just because that person didn't provide the whole thesis themselves doesn't mean you and I and others weren't well aware of what they were talking about. And it was terrible form that because you disagreed with the thesis, you chose to attack them on the validity of even bringing up the topic at all, rather than what they were bringing up. Again, I usually appreciate your posts, but this was not constructive behavior.
I disagree wholeheartedly. Vanja brings data, other user didn't and in fact asked a question about speculation. My agreement or disagreement has nothing to do with saying it should be in the other thread, I've pointed out before OT conversations, this wasn't related to my agreement any more than the other times.

I think we've discussed this enough and is now time to let it go, even if it was on topic.
The problem is that we can pull up all kinds of data and still be wrong. Because we have very limited data and because F1 cars are complicated and some simple graph will rarely tell the whole story. It doesn't inherently make some argument fact rather than speculation.

And it doesn't change that you were confident in claiming that you KNEW what Ferrari's problem wasn't, when you were yourself resorting to nothing but speculation, yet are tirelessly arguing for somebody else posting popular speculation to be shut down. It just smacks of wanting to keep discussion guided purely along talking points that you happen to agree with. Speculation YOU agree with is ok, but any other speculation shouldn't be allowed.

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Back on topic, please.
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No upgrades?
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 02:13
No upgrades?
Nothing in the FIA documents.

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Are these end plates (with extensions) not new?
I have not noticed them before:
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woohoo wrote:
01 Sep 2025, 17:06
Are these end plates (with extensions) not new?
I have not noticed them before:
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I think they were introduced in Barcelona

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SF-25 Floor Zandvoort

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The images below are from Albert Park 2025. I noticed that during qualifying, the SF-25 seemed to have a "2-gill" cooling setup on the engine cover (second picture). During the actual Australian GP however, the gills seemed to be faired over and I only see one opening (first picture).

Anyone know why they're different? Does the SF-25 allow engineers to quickly open/close cooling vents depending on track conditions? Or are they swapping out the entire engine cover somehow? Also, what's the reason for doing this?

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xenon3 wrote:
16 Sep 2025, 04:40
The images below are from Albert Park 2025. I noticed that during qualifying, the SF-25 seemed to have a "2-gill" cooling setup on the engine cover (second picture). During the actual Australian GP however, the gills seemed to be faired over and I only see one opening (first picture).

Anyone know why they're different? Does the SF-25 allow engineers to quickly open/close cooling vents depending on track conditions? Or are they swapping out the entire engine cover somehow? Also, what's the reason for doing this?

https://i.imgur.com/jHGaIK0.png
Are you 100% sure both pics are from the same GP weekend ? Reason :
- two different cars (T-cam is yellow in bottom pic)
- two different floors (the floor stay wire/rod is different)
Nevertheless, I think opening/closing engine cooling louvres is pretty easy (as I understand) where different panels (cutouts basically) can be attached to the side of the engine cover. However, I am not 100% sure whether such change is allowed between Q and R without violating parc ferme.

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venkyhere wrote:
16 Sep 2025, 17:46
xenon3 wrote:
16 Sep 2025, 04:40
The images below are from Albert Park 2025. I noticed that during qualifying, the SF-25 seemed to have a "2-gill" cooling setup on the engine cover (second picture). During the actual Australian GP however, the gills seemed to be faired over and I only see one opening (first picture).

Anyone know why they're different? Does the SF-25 allow engineers to quickly open/close cooling vents depending on track conditions? Or are they swapping out the entire engine cover somehow? Also, what's the reason for doing this?

https://i.imgur.com/jHGaIK0.png
Are you 100% sure both pics are from the same GP weekend ? Reason :
- two different cars (T-cam is yellow in bottom pic)
- two different floors (the floor stay wire/rod is different)
Nevertheless, I think opening/closing engine cooling louvres is pretty easy (as I understand) where different panels (cutouts basically) can be attached to the side of the engine cover. However, I am not 100% sure whether such change is allowed between Q and R without violating parc ferme.
They're not from the same GP. The pictures are for reference purposes only to display the actual difference between the quali and race cooling setups, as can be seen in the actual footage from both events.

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xenon3 wrote:
16 Sep 2025, 04:40
The images below are from Albert Park 2025.
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hollus wrote:
17 Sep 2025, 17:19
xenon3 wrote:
16 Sep 2025, 04:40
The images below are from Albert Park 2025.
I was wrong.

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I was doing a bit of research on the floor update that Ferrari introduced at the Bahrain GP, and I've come across some conflicting information that's left me a bit confused.

This is what I thought the floor update looked like:
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But then I stumbled upon this graphic that shows something slightly different (source):
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I thought the floor shown in image "C" was only present on the car during the initial launch, and that they had changed that to what we see in image "A" for the first GP. Can someone confirm that please?