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[Luscion]

Carbone Industrie brakes fitted to Charles' car

[AnotherAlex]

No doubt too many variables to consider with the limited testing available, but it would be interesting to see if splitting the front and rear between Brembo and CI could deliver some of the benefits of both.

[f1316]

Is Mark Hughes a reliable journalist?

Yes, I would say one of the more reliable.

[PlatinumZealot]

from autoracer live: Ferrari should be in the 6-8% category and the offical results are being held because RBPT is not happy with the results

That just not possible. We're talking ~50hp assuming 575-600 for the RBPT. I don't think it is realistic that Ferrari would be that far behind. Based on the (limited) wheel to wheel action we've seen between a RBPT engined car and a Ferrari engined car the RBPT car does seem faster down the straights but its not that level of gap. Either the FIA has messed up the test in a way thats overrating the RBPT engine or RBPT are running it below its potential for reliability reasons.

What you see on track isn't just ICE alone, otherwise if the tests are to believed you'd see RBPT outperforming the Mercedes on the straights as well.

If you are delivering more ICE power it means you can harvest more if you so choose, that would make any pure ICE grunt advantage look like less of a difference.

Anyway Mercedes getting ADUO means RBPT must be extremely inefficient on the electrical side that they're getting trounced engine wise by Mercedes.

I think I have to correct you with this notion that people have the the electrical "mystery box" is accounting for power differences. This is not so and is far from the truth... But it may be lost on persons just joining the sport.

To get a good idea of the dynamic between ICE and MGUK power.. All you have to do really is use the lessons from the previous hybrid years. ICE power is the king and there is little differentiation electrical-wise. It is hand-over fist benefits if your ICE has more power. You get better deployment, better harvesting because for a given acceleration you have to use both ICE fuel and MGUK less than other cars. Electrical efficiency is even tighter between teams batteries and MUGK than on the ICE. (MGUH is a different matter).

Anyway. You're correct that the peak efficiencies don't translate to lap-time. it's also about how the electrical management is working. This we called out as weakness by RedBull at the start of the season. The weight of the RB22 also explains the gap.

[PlatinumZealot]

Carbone Industrie brakes fitted to Charles' car

Charles is playing with fire here... Not sure he's the experimenting type of driver to do this..

I am still not convinced that Brembo isn't the sole supplier to Ferrari. These photos don't prove anything because the disks are quite similar nowadays.

In the 2010's they had telling hole patterns... But i don't think this is the case today.

[gearboxtrouble]

Changing brakes on a race car is a massive risk even for amateurs racing weekend track days. So much depends on pedal feel and just knowing where the ABS (not in f1) and traction limits are without locking that even an on paper upgrade can make you slower. Hopefully he tries it in FP1 and FP2 has a plan B to go back to the devil he knows (Brembo) for FP3 and quali if its not working the way the thought.

[deadhead]

Every single reliable source is reporting him switching to CI materials.

We’ve seen him drive around all sorts of issues over the years but this is very different.

[kptaylor]

I was under the impression he was switching just to CI disks, retaining Brembo calipers.

[Farnborough]

Changing brakes on a race car is a massive risk even for amateurs racing weekend track days. So much depends on pedal feel and just knowing where the ABS (not in f1) and traction limits are without locking that even an on paper upgrade can make you slower. Hopefully he tries it in FP1 and FP2 has a plan B to go back to the devil he knows (Brembo) for FP3 and quali if its not working the way the thought.

They have information far far in excess of most in this respect. Add to that the deployment profile it seems already established in LH chassis and live use (if report is correct on this topic) then certainly not a shot in the dark.

Cylinder bore size, caliper & master. Bias predominance, operating heat range, adaptions already used etc, etc.

Overarching though, his so far used setup in Brembo has brought mostly huge questions that they've been unable to answer. Its not like they've decided to move away from an immaculate performance in search of additional ground. He doesn't have faith, or reliable application, in his so far existing setup.

Its not exactly stacking a huge risk profile onto a productive setup, much more in the orientation of "can we answer questions that are loud and clear coming from performance up until now ? " looks like we're about to find out this weekend.