Aston Martin AMR26

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diffuser wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:12
Why do you care what everybody else is using?
Copying the competition's good ideas is as old as Formula 1 itself, they should probably care a little bit what the other teams are doing no? You're probably right about what they are trying to accomplish, I just get suspicious when a single team has a design outlier like this. Audi are also a sidepod/floor-inlet outlier but they seem to perform pretty well on the whole when they run at all, whereas Aston have been performing poorly for 2 or 3 seasons now so faith is low.
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Interesting that they changed the direction of those lower vanes under the barge boards to go downwards towards the outer side, rather than upwards. Not sure if I have seen that on another car.

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FNTC wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:28
Interesting that they changed the direction of those lower vanes under the barge boards to go downwards towards the outer side, rather than upwards. Not sure if I have seen that on another car.
McLaren, Williams, and Cadillac have a somewhat similar design.

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FNTC wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:28
Interesting that they changed the direction of those lower vanes under the barge boards to go downwards towards the outer side, rather than upwards. Not sure if I have seen that on another car.
I presume the air going trough there was out wash. So before they were tossing it out of the way, high in the air. Now they seem to have found a way to clean up the flow and are trying to use it at the back of the floor ?

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Brahmal wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:35
FNTC wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:28
Interesting that they changed the direction of those lower vanes under the barge boards to go downwards towards the outer side, rather than upwards. Not sure if I have seen that on another car.
McLaren, Williams, and Cadillac have a somewhat similar design.
I assumed from the pic that they all went down, but maybe it's similar to the MCL40 where the front ones go down and the rear goes up?

McLaren:
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diffuser wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:26
Brahmal wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:24
diffuser wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:12
Why do you care what everybody else is using?
Copying the competition's good ideas is as old as Formula 1 itself, they should probably care a little bit what the other teams are doing no? You're probably right about what they are trying to accomplish, I just get suspicious when a single team has a design outlier like this. Audi are also a sidepod outlier but they seem to perform pretty well when they run at all, whereas Aston have been performing poorly for 2 or 3 seasons now.
Teams don't get suspicious when Newey goes in another direction. THEY BECOME AFRAID!
This is just a sensationalist assumption.
No real engineer who knows his stuff will feel and work like this.
This year clearly shows he alone is not a guarantee for success....
Also, other engineers know because they actually learned what they are doing and why in their own designs, and how other directions simply are not better, you have to design the whole car as one complete unit.
There is a reason why Newey walks the grid and looks at all the other cars at every race... he knows other teams are just as capable and he shall learn from them.

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I have a suspicion about this rear wing, but I won't say it yet since I need to see another angle to be sure. Let's just say for now that the actuator appears to be heavily redesigned...

New:
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Old:
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Beware of T-Rex

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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 17:19
I have a suspicion about this rear wing, but I won't say it yet since I need to see another angle to be sure. Let's just say for now that the actuator appears to be heavily redesigned...

New:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HN6sr-wXMAA ... name=large


Old:
https://i.ibb.co/27jkB5XC/image.png
I think your suspicion is wrong
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sucof wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:42
diffuser wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:26
Brahmal wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:24


Copying the competition's good ideas is as old as Formula 1 itself, they should probably care a little bit what the other teams are doing no? You're probably right about what they are trying to accomplish, I just get suspicious when a single team has a design outlier like this. Audi are also a sidepod outlier but they seem to perform pretty well when they run at all, whereas Aston have been performing poorly for 2 or 3 seasons now.
Teams don't get suspicious when Newey goes in another direction. THEY BECOME AFRAID!
This is just a sensationalist assumption.
No real engineer who knows his stuff will feel and work like this.
This year clearly shows he alone is not a guarantee for success....
Also, other engineers know because they actually learned what they are doing and why in their own designs, and how other directions simply are not better, you have to design the whole car as one complete unit.
There is a reason why Newey walks the grid and looks at all the other cars at every race... he knows other teams are just as capable and he shall learn from them.
If I recall correctly it was stated by some TV reporter or so, that Newey personally prefer this underbite inlet style. If you look at Redbull from 2022 to 2024 I think you can see it, and then they changed it for overbite inlet when Newey started losing his credibility in the team.

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From Crash.net. That look like cooling entry or just where the Halo connects ?

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NotAdrianNewey wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 18:09
AR3-GP wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 17:19
I have a suspicion about this rear wing, but I won't say it yet since I need to see another angle to be sure. Let's just say for now that the actuator appears to be heavily redesigned...

New:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HN6sr-wXMAA ... name=large


Old:
https://i.ibb.co/27jkB5XC/image.png
I think your suspicion is wrong
I haven't said what my suspicion is! :lol:
Beware of T-Rex

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Quatro wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 18:16
sucof wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:42
diffuser wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 16:26


Teams don't get suspicious when Newey goes in another direction. THEY BECOME AFRAID!
This is just a sensationalist assumption.
No real engineer who knows his stuff will feel and work like this.
This year clearly shows he alone is not a guarantee for success....
Also, other engineers know because they actually learned what they are doing and why in their own designs, and how other directions simply are not better, you have to design the whole car as one complete unit.
There is a reason why Newey walks the grid and looks at all the other cars at every race... he knows other teams are just as capable and he shall learn from them.
If I recall correctly it was stated by some TV reporter or so, that Newey personally prefer this underbite inlet style. If you look at Redbull from 2022 to 2024 I think you can see it, and then they changed it for overbite inlet when Newey started losing his credibility in the team.
He doesn't care one way or another about the size or shape of the inlet. It all comes down to where they want to direct the clean airflow.

It's funny you mention the 2024 car because it had almost no inlet at all. They prioritized getting clean air over the top, even extending the upper surface of the sidepod to take advantage of it. The air intake was essentially an L rotated about 45 degrees: a very narrow slot across the top and another running down the side of the chassis. That design pulled the dirty air into the sidepod while also cleaning up the airflow underneath it.

Newey never lost credibility with the team. He left of his own accord. In fact, Horner fought hard to maximize Newey's gardening leave, even taking him to court in an attempt to stop him from joining AMR in March 2025. That doesn't sound like someone whose technical input had lost its value.

Please do not make up your own facts.

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diffuser wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 18:16
From Crash.net. That look like cooling entry or just where the Halo connects ?

https://www.crash.net/sites/default/fil ... ratio=16:9
I̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶w̶a̶y̶s̶ ̶b̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶.̶ Edit: that's last year's car in the picture, sorry.
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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 17:19
I have a suspicion about this rear wing, but I won't say it yet since I need to see another angle to be sure. Let's just say for now that the actuator appears to be heavily redesigned...

New:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HN6sr-wXMAA ... name=large


Old:
https://i.ibb.co/27jkB5XC/image.png
Here we have a better view of the RW actuator with both 'legs' connecting it to the mainplane. Looks like they will use 'normal' flap, non-macarena type
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quincalla wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 20:29
diffuser wrote:
23 Jul 2026, 18:16
From Crash.net. That look like cooling entry or just where the Halo connects ?

https://www.crash.net/sites/default/fil ... ratio=16:9
It's always been there.
https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/amp ... ti-de.webp
Thanks