Worst timing ever during a live feed

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agreed Gridwalker. I even tried Opera and it was still messed up.
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roost89 wrote:agreed Gridwalker. I even tried Opera and it was still messed up.
Roost, were you also running linux with that? Or perhaps Mac OS X?

If that didn't happen in windows, one wild guess would be using a screen resolution better than 96 dpi is messing some stuff. And yes, windows (XP, Vista or 7) sets itself to 96 dpi no matter what. Also, higher res works decently in Vista and 7, but sucks big time in XP. I haven't used live timing today, since I was watching the BBC feed full screen, so I can't help you.
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.

"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." Niels Bohr

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Had the same problems today, used Win7 x64 with Firefox 3.6.
So its not a OS problem, I think they just messed up again...

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LG need to fix it for Melbourne. Its just completly messed up and un-useable.

Personally, id like to see more data on it, like the tyre each driver is on at that current moment, and how many laps its been since their last pit stop.

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Miguel wrote:
roost89 wrote:agreed Gridwalker. I even tried Opera and it was still messed up.
Roost, were you also running linux with that? Or perhaps Mac OS X?

If that didn't happen in windows, one wild guess would be using a screen resolution better than 96 dpi is messing some stuff. And yes, windows (XP, Vista or 7) sets itself to 96 dpi no matter what. Also, higher res works decently in Vista and 7, but sucks big time in XP. I haven't used live timing today, since I was watching the BBC feed full screen, so I can't help you.
I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 after properly destroying Vista >_< Didn't have a back-up disc, so downloaded a live disc. I am by no means good at using it though.

Does LG provide the data and program?
The thing does need updated. Although it's roughly the same as what the pit wall gets.
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[quote="roost89]Does LG provide the data and program?
The thing does need updated. Although it's roughly the same as what the pit wall gets.[/quote]

I belive that LG do have input on the program, and its roughly the same as the pit wall yes. But isnt if you know where im coming from. Its taken from the live feed, but is then taken and ran off a dedidicated server.

Whats to stop them giving us what the pit wall get now, most people have computers with equivelent speed to what the teams use, and have access to good broadband connections now, that can handle the data.

Id like to see what the pit wall has on my laptop i use for live timing feeds.

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ESPImperium wrote:
roost89 wrote:Does LG provide the data and program?
The thing does need updated. Although it's roughly the same as what the pit wall gets.
I belive that LG do have input on the program, and its roughly the same as the pit wall yes. But isnt if you know where im coming from. Its taken from the live feed, but is then taken and ran off a dedidicated server.

Whats to stop them giving us what the pit wall get now, most people have computers with equivelent speed to what the teams use, and have access to good broadband connections now, that can handle the data.

Id like to see what the pit wall has on my laptop i use for live timing feeds.
Agreed sir. More information given to us in the live feed the better! As with HD I believe we'll have to wait a long time to see it :(
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roost89 wrote:Agreed sir. More information given to us in the live feed the better! As with HD I believe we'll have to wait a long time to see it :(
Wouldn't it be awesome to have HD F1 with the ability to turn on live timing on a side of the screen? Kinda like the red button of the BBC. It would be good if you didn't depend on a wireless setup to properly follow F1 races. Today, when Vettel found issues, it was immediately apparent to all of us, and to the BBC commentary box, that it was important to see how the Vettel-Rosberg gap was decreasing. A battle for fourth! That was going to be settled in the last few laps! But the only way you got this info reliably was with the live timing. Had it worked properly, which I ignore.

I'm growing increasingly tired of the F1 coverage. What's up with Qualifying without *fully updated* positions? Why do we get only whether a car is beating either P1 or P17 (whatever needs to pass through)? In MotoGP (and 125 and Moto 2 as well), we see whether a driver is improving the best time (red), his personal best (blue) or nothing. And then we see the Top 10 riders. And then you see which drivers are on track! What did we get on saturday? Nothing! And now couple that with $THREAD_TITLE. That equals to massive suckage.
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.

"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." Niels Bohr

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gridwalker wrote:They have clearly changed something with the live timings for this season (maybe having something to do with the death of the standard-shredding IE6) : I have never had any major problems with live timing using Firefox on Ubuntu Linux before, but it has been displaying like this for the entire race :

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It hasn't made the timings unreadable, but it has been REALLY annoying ...
Yup, that sector 2 time is not in the right column.

As for better info, we don't need to change the timing info feed. All we need is a little app on your PC/Mac that catches the race data, sores it in a little database and then does some post processing of the live comparisons. For example track the relative positions of cars, or draw a graph of distance to race leader for each driver over the duration of the race.

Ideally, it could work like a pivot table/chart in Excel, you just drag fields to the table/chart area and develop your own custom reports.

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Even with the latest Java, live timing didn't work yesterday or today. This is with Windows 7. If I have the same problem again for the next race during practice, I'll have to dual-boot XP just for watching F1.

The script however looked fine unlike what some of you are reporting. :|

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To complain, email livetiming@formula1.com

I recommend that we all raise the issues we have experienced : things will never improve unless we do so.

Hell, if we also make suggestions for improved data and/or downloadable apps with added functionality they might just listen!
"Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine ..."

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vinuneuro wrote:Even with the latest Java, live timing didn't work yesterday or today. This is with Windows 7. If I have the same problem again for the next race during practice, I'll have to dual-boot XP just for watching F1.

The script however looked fine unlike what some of you are reporting. :|
Were you able to get live timing from XP? My father told me he had to re-register in order to access the live timing this year. I tried to access live timing on friday but was utterly unsuccessfull (64 bit linux)
I am not amazed by F1 cars in Monaco. I want to see them driving in the A8 highway: Variable radius corners, negative banking, and extreme narrowings that Tilke has never dreamed off. Oh, yes, and "beautiful" weather tops it all.

"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." Niels Bohr

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Miguel wrote:
vinuneuro wrote:Even with the latest Java, live timing didn't work yesterday or today. This is with Windows 7. If I have the same problem again for the next race during practice, I'll have to dual-boot XP just for watching F1.

The script however looked fine unlike what some of you are reporting. :|
Were you able to get live timing from XP? My father told me he had to re-register in order to access the live timing this year. I tried to access live timing on friday but was utterly unsuccessfull (64 bit linux)
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gridwalker wrote:To complain, email livetiming@formula1.com

I recommend that we all raise the issues we have experienced : things will never improve unless we do so.

Hell, if we also make suggestions for improved data and/or downloadable apps with added functionality they might just listen!
I just sent this:
After following F1.com live timing for the past 3 seasons now, and going into 2010 with the same expectations for a solid and improved service i was left a little bewildered.

I, as did many others who i have been reading on Internet forums i am on had many issues.

* Fastest lap was where 24th place, Karun Chandhock should have been, it was the Fastest Lap driver.
* I feel that after pit stops, the timing feed doesn't update until the lap is over, and not after every sector beam.
* The sector timings weren't aliened properly.

I also would like to see a few added functions:

* Last pit stop time
* Put sector times to 3 decimal places
* Lap Counter (Laps to go till the end)

Thank you for reading. Hope you can iron out some of the difficulties in the following races.

sjmmarsh
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That is what I was seeing in ie8 and Chrome, so it looks like it is the feed, not the browser.

As you say, really annoying!

Steve