Mercedes AMG F1 W03

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Pierce89 wrote:have no idea of their purpose other than to reduce overall cross section through the coke bottle area. I only know they're in every picture that shows that part of the car.

Right, thanks mate. Sounds like only Ferrari knows.
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MercAMGF1Fans wrote:
msc-n01 wrote:I personally feel mercedes are playing a very clever game. Im sure they have something up their sleeves. u get that vibe from the way michael and the team are behaving, plus the times to me are showing positivity and as if there hiding some good pace, I HOPE SO, also the team is showing confidence compared to the last two years. maybe the true colours will show either on the final days of testing or melbourne. But still its to early to really predict where the guys are at the moment. we dont know how much fuel and tyres the guys are using.
I honestly hope the car is next level as for most of us, it will b a tear jerker to see MSC on the podium.

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and remember, they've still got an Upgrade package to install pre-melbourne
And engen maping is forbidden. This will hurt them! I thing that this year they planned to use it in a bigger extent - maybe not as big as RB or MCL but defenitly more than last year. This is probably the reason of prety good testing shape. We will see today and on the next test.
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marcush. wrote:maybe ,just maybe they have a ducted bag around the exhaust and duct the waste heat as far back as possible to avoid heating up other (delicate)components .
You would not duct waste heat if there is already a channel if it were not for the high delta t that you can only expect from the exhaust vs engine heat.
The old vw beetle heating system had two heat exchangers on the exhaust, and just blowing air through to the front to demist the windscreen. Even those two pipes at the back remind me of the type of pipes used in the VW.

Is there a regulation stopping them from using a similar system for blowing other parts, maybe diffuser? i know nothing about this, maybe the type of flow from such a system would be useless anyway?

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In a article from F1Zone.net they are talking about the hole under the rainlight.
Here's the link.http://www.f1zone.net/news/mercedes-hid ... ept/12509/.
“It's not something that happens overnight. I kept saying that until mathematically things are impossible, I will keep fighting,” Michael Schumacher.

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That article is very interesting.
From F1Zone.net
VERY Interesting
The recently revealed ‘W-duct’ aside, another technical secret has been discovered aboard Mercedes’ newly launched W03.

Rumours insist the German squad was the last to reveal and test its 2012 car because it boasts a few highly innovative ideas that could drive Michael Schumacher and Nico Rosberg to the middle of the podium.

Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport reports that mechanics working for the Brackley based team are making more efforts than usual to hide the front and rear of the car, and erecting huge screens in front of the pits between test runs in Barcelona.

But a big secret is now out of the bag, and it’s located beneath the rear rain light and being described by insiders as “like a double diffuser”.

Italy’s La Gazzetta dello Sport said the feature is believed to produce an effect similar to the one pioneered by Mercedes’ predecessor Brawn GP in 2009, which resulted in the championship for Jenson Button.

And according to Auto Motor und Sport, the concept differs to the banned double diffuser because the air is channelled through holes at the rear of the engine cover.

The concept, despite complying with the FIA’s blown diffuser clampdown, also reportedly involves the clever redirection of exhaust gases.

And yet another innovation on the Mercedes could be a passive ‘F-duct’-style addition to the car’s new rear wing, working alongside the ‘DRS’ system.

When asked about the ‘ducts’, Rosberg and Schumacher played it coy: “What’s that?” Rosberg answered, while Schumacher joked that it sounds like something that should go “quack!”

“They are a good team,” Red Bull team boss Christian Horner told Sky when asked about Mercedes.

“They have some good people so it would be foolish to underestimate them.”

Meanwhile, TZ newspaper in Germany reports that the FIA could be set to clamp down even harder in the area of exhaust blowing.

There are rumours Renault and Mercedes-powered teams are still using clever engine mapping techniques for aerodynamic effect

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I also believe those two pipes they put in were to see if they could control the KERS outflow more precisely over the mid wing.
“It's not something that happens overnight. I kept saying that until mathematically things are impossible, I will keep fighting,” Michael Schumacher.

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In the RB8 thread, there is a photo from the Brazil Grand Prix showing a similiar cockpit exit. But it is the combination of the letterbox and the exit that should be interesting if they continue with it and if other teams follow suit. I'm curious how different the tub is compared to last year, as the 625mm regulation was to allow constructors to use the same tub.

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Look at the diffuser!
There is the engine starter hole.
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But when has there been a huge vent like a letterbox in the Stepped Break Point of a Noise. If they can channel the air through the vent into that elliptical shaped exit,this will GIVE HUGE BENEFITS.

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Mr.S wrote:But when has there been a huge vent like a letterbox in the Stepped Break Point of a Noise. If they can channel the air through the vent into that elliptical shaped exit,this will GIVE HUGE BENEFITS.

Totaly agree :idea: .

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Mr.S wrote:But when has there been a huge vent like a letterbox in the Stepped Break Point of a Noise. If they can channel the air through the vent into that elliptical shaped exit,this will GIVE HUGE BENEFITS.
Who knows mate? maybe even the Mercs F duct FW might play a dual role in blowing the FW, as well as using the some of the air to blow pressurised air over the sidepods...who knows... :wtf:

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Mr.S wrote:But when has there been a huge vent like a letterbox in the Stepped Break Point of a Noise. If they can channel the air through the vent into that elliptical shaped exit,this will GIVE HUGE BENEFITS.
There are three intakes above and behind the driver's head. I've only seen two of them really discussed. What is the lowest one for? It's partially blocked by the driver's helmet. Could that be used for something like this?

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Nico is on a long stint. No idea about the tyre. If someone knows please post it.

Here are the times -

1.31.544
1.28.976
1.28.879
1.30.481
1.29.055
1.29.531
1.29.683
1.29.944
1.30.024
1.29.968
1.29.991

?????? ( BLANK ) ( DID HE PIT????)

1.27.258