Mercedes AMG F1 W03

[Raptor22]

I suspect when DRS is closd the system is closed and there no flow.
Open DRS and the conduit opens releasing pressure and allowing flow.
The fluidic switch responds and to the flow signal and opens the flow in the front wing.
All that is needed is sufficient pressure. The whole system can be pressurised through the nose openngor the engine cover opening

[Mr.S]

Now the Mercedes DRS induces wing stalling has been a) confirmed and b) allowed thus bringing even more benefit per lap how about this for a race tactic : Both cars leap froging each other at each DRS zone (two in Oz?) allowing both cars to repeatedly benefit from an open DRS on each lap.

That could be possible. Could be ominous. I can see that happening in places where there are 2 DRS zones. Nico overtakes Michael in Zone 1 & MS overtakes Nico back in Zone 2.

Both of them can use DRS + Rear Wing F/W duct over 1 straight/DRS zone. I can see atleast a 3-4 tenth benefit in it. But this things will be difficult to manage if Mercedes are up in the front & both drivers fighting for position.

[Ferraripilot]

I suspect when DRS is closd the system is closed and there no flow.
Open DRS and the conduit opens releasing pressure and allowing flow.
The fluidic switch responds and to the flow signal and opens the flow in the front wing.
All that is needed is sufficient pressure. The whole system can be pressurised through the nose openngor the engine cover opening

If the system is dependant on being routed through the body, I can't imagine how a team could adopt the tech within a reasonable timeframe. FLow like that makes it seem like a fundamental bit on the car.

[Hemsy]

There is a lot of confusion as regards to whether Merc have a rear wing/front wing F-Duct or both. We'll need to see on-track footage of the car in order to pass judgement. Regardless, this bodes very well for Merc, not purely because of the lap time gain but also in setting up the car.

This year's Pirelli tires are far more aggressive so they wear out quicker. This means that teams will be forced to focus more on race pace making qualifying slightly less important. The F-Duct is coupled to the DRS which is mainly used in qualifying. So this means that Merc will not lose as much pace in qualifying as the other teams and still have good race pace.

[shelly]

Now the autosport article adds some confusion by saying merc system acts on the rear wing.

wow, you are in full-on denial.

I am in good company it seems:

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2012/03/1 ... -wing-drs/

[skgoa]

He claims that a blown flap was some magical epiphany. They have been used in airplane and race car engineering since the second world war. 'nuff said.

edit: And I am sorry if this hurts your feelings but at the end of day I am going to believe Charlie Whiting over you.

[skgoa]

So suspension is only to deflect bumps on the road. But the DRS actuator is not only for activating the DRS flap?? You can also use as a duct opener or a can crusher?? Thats just FIA retarded logic!!

They are only using DRS to not just stall the flap but the mainplane as well. It increases DRS effect. Nothing more. Or do you want the FIA to ban "short flap" rear wings as well, since they have a stronger DRS effect than wings with long flaps?

[siskue2005]

edit: And I am sorry if this hurts your feelings but at the end of day I am going to believe Charlie Whiting over you.

this is what Charlie said
"What it appears some teams are doing is that when the DRS is operated, it will allow air to pass into a duct and do other things," he explained.

"That is all I can say – you will probably have a pretty good idea of what it might be doing, and other teams will as well. But it is completely passive. There are no moving parts in it; it doesn't interact with any suspension. No steering, nothing. Therefore I cannot see a rule that prohibits it."

where does he say its stalling the main plane of rear wing?
It was the autosport guys who got it wrong
read this link properly
http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2012/03/1 ... -wing-drs/
Scarbs is the man who first predicted F duct in 2010

[aral]

Why get all steamed up about this? It could well be a total disaster, and other teams may well have secrets that are even better/

Why not wait until the GP to see which team got it right this year.

[aduka11]

Why get all steamed up about this? It could well be a total disaster, and other teams may well have secrets that are even better/

Why not wait until the GP to see which team got it right this year.

They tested it in BArcelona...

If it showed be a total disaster back in Barcelona...then they wouldn't use it in Aus GP or even asked to Whithing for clearance...

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Merc duct opening??


image via F1Talks.pl

[snoop1050]

If it showed be a total disaster back in Barcelona...then they wouldn't use it in Aus GP or even asked to Whithing for clearance...

it did? explain

[painkiller]

Merc duct opening??

Great Pic. Thats the Duct.

What i am not sure about is what they are doing with it. Following scarbs they activate the W-Duct by blowing air trough the duct. What if its not blowing but sucking air out of it for activating or changing the strength of the front-wing-f-duct. This may also give the rearwing some extra stall.

Just some thoughts...

[Devilsadvocate]

i think all teams and just playing mind games..firstly RB says that he doesn't know why MGPW03 cant be a winner and then concludes that there would be in for an unusual win under different circumstances.

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/75 ... ual-to-win

[raymondu999]

The first step to understanding what the paddock word is - and to get consistently good news - is to stop reading Planet F1.