Mercedes AMG F1 W03

[Pierce89]

Why I feel like kind of a deja-vu with 2009 season BGP001?

Don't know why you get feel like the bgp001. We all knew after 1 test that it was easily the quickest car. W03 seems competitive but bgp001 showed CLEAR superiority.

[MercAMGF1Fans]

Why I feel like kind of a deja-vu with 2009 season BGP001?

Don't know why you get feel like the bgp001. We all knew after 1 test that it was easily the quickest car. W03 seems competitive but bgp001 showed CLEAR superiority.

so much so, that JB after the first test put some money down on himself to with the title that year!

[mx_tifoso]

Team or GP discussion in respective threads. Everything will be moved out without warning to make it quicker for us. FYI.

Same goes for f-duct specific comments.

[Gerhardsa]

Team or GP discussion in respective threads. Everything will be moved out without warning to make it quicker for us. FYI.

Same goes for f-duct specific comments.

But the f-duct is speculated to be part of this car. why cant we talk about it and its effects?

[aduka11]

Vey good job with front wing flexing =D>

[mx_tifoso]

Aside from some flexing, the car as a whole is rolling quite a lot.

[siskue2005]

...
That's not flexing
It's roll of the car

[Raptor22]

I still believe Scarb's view on the Mercedes stalling mechanism is the most likley.
With the DRS flap up the exit air is exposed. This flwo won;t travel far enough to stall the flap or the main plane further. It will simple integrate with the flow. But it will release pressure in the system since flow is now possible. If flow is present it will allow the air entry in the nose to drop pressure and flow via a different path into the front wing. and exit at the bottom through slots.

An alternative mechanism is that the actuator itself moves the DRS flap to the open position and by virtue of teh shape of the mechanical parts blocks a conduit that creates a redirection of flow to the rear wing main element to stall it.

I don;t see much benefit in this since its not at a high alpha so the stalling could in fact create more drag than wanted.
In the McLaren F-duct of 2010 the slot was placed in such a position where the alpha of the wing was high to stall those elements.

I also still maintain that a fluidic switch would be used so as to ensure moving parts are eliminated as far as possible to get around "movable aerodynamic devices".

In my view, Scarbs has presented by far the most plausible option.

From BBC commentary, Mercedes don't have all the parts for the complete Stalling system on the car yet. Ross Brawn was mum about it and declined to comment on anything relating to it.
What I suspect they are up to is keep the full system off the car till Qualifying. By then the car will be homologated for the race and passed by the race stewards. Charlie Whiting has again confirmed the system as designed by Mercedes and their interpretation of the rules is legal. There are many team managers who are waiting to protest the system so Mercedes won't show their hand till the very last possible moment.
Also their tyre degradation does not seem to be an issue and Ferrari looks far worse than they.
I believe it will be a race between Red Bull, McLaren and Mercedes this weekend.
Also positive is that Michael is very happy with his car, Nico is struggling to get it to understeer as much to his preference. It either understeers too much or it oversteers slightly. It seems happier in the latter state which Schumacher appears to be revelling in.


PS: re pics above, that body roll.... not wing flex.

[thomin]

PS: re pics above, that body roll.... not wing flex.

Maybe it's the angle, but to me it looks as if it's mostly the FW that's rolling, while the rest of the car looks more stiff...but again, could be the angle...

[Gerhardsa]

PS: re pics above, that body roll.... not wing flex.

Maybe it's the angle, but to me it looks as if it's mostly the FW that's rolling, while the rest of the car looks more stiff...but again, could be the angle...

Look at the LF and RF tyre load differences...its just body role

[Raptor22]

to make it simpler than what Gerhard is suggesting,

take a ruler from your little sisters stationery drawer. Hold it up to your monitor from the bottom of one end plate to the other and see if the wing itself is flexing...

Mods can you please remove dumb posts on wing flexing. Its tiresome and a waste of space to keep explaining body roll vs wing flex

[DAMNINice]

front part of the floor is nicely low over the ground.

[bgroovers]

Just a thought on how the P (passive) duct system works. When the hole is revealed in the wing end plate by DRS surely the venturi effect would suck air out of this hole and therefor create low pressure in the system and allow air movement to blow the front wing.
Ie. the hole in the wing being uncovered works in the opposite way to the hole being covered in the cockpit by the driver in 2010.
I dont really understand how air is going to enter the hole in the wing at such high speeds especially as the high pressure area normally built up by the wing has been removed by opening the DRS.
Also could they also be stalling the beam wing?

Mods can you please remove pratonising comments about flex vs roll...

[Fredy4]

Schumnacher has said in an interview its "an excellent machine"

I dont care about the FP times, what I do care about though is how he feels in the car and it seems he likes it!

In my eyes they are the 3rd fastest team, but its close. Close enough for MS in a car he has confidence in to work some magic.

You can see in practice how his body language in the car is nothing like the last 2 years, it sounds daft, but its like he is at one with this car.

[lombers]

Schumnacher has said in an interview its "an excellent machine"

I dont care about the FP times, what I do care about though is how he feels in the car and it seems he likes it!

In my eyes they are the 3rd fastest team, but its close. Close enough for MS in a car he has confidence in to work some magic.

You can see in practice how his body language in the car is nothing like the last 2 years, it sounds daft, but its like he is at one with this car.

I noticed this too today being trackside, it felt like the Schumacher of old there was plenty of confidence in his driving style.

I'm disappointed today we didn't have that much dry running as I was curious to see how much of the lap they can use DRS for with their stalled front wing. Guess we have to wait till tomorrow.