Mercedes AMG F1 W03

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dren wrote:That confirms the monkey seat.
Indeed. I told Zyphro there was a 99.9999% chance they'd use it. Will be interesting in seeing how competitive this car is this weekend.

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
dren wrote:That confirms the monkey seat.
Indeed. I told Zyphro there was a 99.9999% chance they'd use it. Will be interesting in seeing how competitive this car is this weekend.
I expected it all along too. Agree, I am curious to see how competitive it will be.
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still short flap DRS. I dunno why but I think the team should use long flap drs for more downforce, correct me if I'm wrong.

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It looks longer than usual to me.

Correction... It's the same.

They might have found a way to get the same downforce as the long flap version.
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I believe the monkey seat aspect of this new feature is a only very small portion of what Mercedes are trying to accomplish with this new bit. I would bet we will see this idea copied in the future. The uprights for the tiny wing itself are positioned so to create a nozzle effect for air exiting beyond the beam wing. Brilliant idea as it creates more of a low pressure area to the underside of the main wing element.


Below is a quick (and terrible) rendering from the top looking down. You get the idea. I expect we will see more on this concept. Much more.



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FrukostScones wrote:burlesque style for monaco?
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N!pple rings -- this could be ominous for good results for the team in Monaco, surely? :mrgreen:
Ozan wrote:still short flap DRS. I dunno why but I think the team should use long flap drs for more downforce, correct me if I'm wrong.
Perhaps it's not just all about total DF points, but DF in balance from front-to-rear?
Ferraripilot wrote:I believe the monkey seat aspect of this new feature is a only very small portion of what Mercedes are trying to accomplish with this new bit. I would bet we will see this idea copied in the future. The uprights for the tiny wing itself are positioned so to create a nozzle effect for air exiting beyond the beam wing. Brilliant idea as it creates more of a high pressure area to the underside of the main wing element.
Just how much scope for design innovation does that area allow for the teams? Would multiple elements & endplates/uprights like the main rear wing make any aerodynamic sense? Like a tarsier recliner on top of a lemur lounger? :mrgreen:

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are the channels on the turning vanes new?
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fat nose? or was there never a fat variant?
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They tested fat nose at mugello and ran in spain.

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Yeah, fat nose was there since the Mugello test and We have seen it first time in China at morning practice. Anyway, noticed that after Schumi broke his front wing in the first session, he revert to the old, narrower concept.

Interesting, if they don't have a spare from this element...
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What is the advantage of Fat nose and wider wing pylon?
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Ferraripilot wrote:.... The uprights for the tiny wing itself are positioned so to create a nozzle effect for air exiting beyond the beam wing. Brilliant idea as it creates more of a high pressure area to the underside of the main wing element.
Please expand, I don't understand wanting high pressure under the main wing.

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siskue2005 wrote:What is the advantage of Fat and wider wing pylon?
I think with the wider nose they have more controlled air underneath the car, so it makes their diffuser more efficient.

I don't know if the bigger gap between the front wing pylons are make the turning vanes more useful, or gives them better flowing positions.

(But I remember, they are doing the same thing last year with the W02)

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hardingfv32 wrote:
Ferraripilot wrote:.... The uprights for the tiny wing itself are positioned so to create a nozzle effect for air exiting beyond the beam wing. Brilliant idea as it creates more of a high pressure area to the underside of the main wing element.
Please expand, I don't understand wanting high pressure under the main wing.

Brian


Sorry, I got that backwards. Low pressure. Gin and F1tech don't mix

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the schumacher pics indicate he is running a lot less Anti-ackerman here in Montecarlo ...compared to the reference pic...