Ferrari F14T

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TechF1
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In my opinion F14T is a project born in 2012, developed in 2013 and adapted to the new 2014 rules. Actually they have just a basic car and they are, as usual in Ferrari, discovering and mapping all the aero of the car.
After they've done this long work, someone has to draw the real 2014 aero shape, find downforce and so on. So do not worry many technicians come, but nothing changed.

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Snelle Eddy wrote:http://imageshack.com/a/img833/7913/yfwm.jpg

Does anybody know what the black thing is underneath the mirror?
Anybody? Aerorake or something?

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I'm not really understanding all these affirmation without knowledge.
If we are commenting here, instead of taking decision into an F1 team, there's surely a reason, do you all agree?
It's a sort of frustration reading all these comments that threat f1 engineers like newbies. They have degrees, knowledge and tools to do their job, let them work.
Another thing that is bothering me is: how can you judge, only by looking at it, if a fw/rw/diffuser is messed up or extremely good?
Do you have cfd or windtunnel data? If yes, show them, otherwise do not judge as if you had the truth in your pocket, thanks.

I know that I'm a little off topic, but I had to write it...hope you understand, thanks.

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Dream Theater wrote:I'm not really understanding all these affirmation without knowledge.
If we are commenting here, instead of taking decision into an F1 team, there's surely a reason, do you all agree?
It's a sort of frustration reading all these comments that threat f1 engineers like newbies. They have degrees, knowledge and tools to do their job, let them work.
Another thing that is bothering me is: how can you judge, only by looking at it, if a fw/rw/diffuser is messed up or extremely good?
Do you have cfd or windtunnel data? If yes, show them, otherwise do not judge as if you had the truth in your pocket, thanks.

I know that I'm a little off topic, but I had to write it...hope you understand, thanks.
Dear Dream Theater,

when I look at the nose of this car I want to "cover my eyes" but "so far or so it seems" the red team's "endless sacrifice" which until recently was "never enough" could finally see the team return to "the best of times". It was "only a matter of time" and looking at "the bigger picture" within Ferrari it is clear "the spirit carries on". The new regulations are a potential "hell's kitchen" but after the "nightmare to remember" of recent seasons, Maranello have earnt their "right of passage" and can now return to winning ways. :wink: :D
"I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it".

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Dream Theater wrote:I'm not really understanding all these affirmation without knowledge.
If we are commenting here, instead of taking decision into an F1 team, there's surely a reason, do you all agree?
It's a sort of frustration reading all these comments that threat f1 engineers like newbies. They have degrees, knowledge and tools to do their job, let them work.
Another thing that is bothering me is: how can you judge, only by looking at it, if a fw/rw/diffuser is messed up or extremely good?
Do you have cfd or windtunnel data? If yes, show them, otherwise do not judge as if you had the truth in your pocket, thanks.

I know that I'm a little off topic, but I had to write it...hope you understand, thanks.
You are absolutely correct. However, if people took what you said to heart, we would have very little to talk about here. Which doesn't bother me, but I can only speak for myself.

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Dream Theater wrote:I'm not really understanding all these affirmation without knowledge.
If we are commenting here, instead of taking decision into an F1 team, there's surely a reason, do you all agree?
It's a sort of frustration reading all these comments that threat f1 engineers like newbies. They have degrees, knowledge and tools to do their job, let them work.
Another thing that is bothering me is: how can you judge, only by looking at it, if a fw/rw/diffuser is messed up or extremely good?
Do you have cfd or windtunnel data? If yes, show them, otherwise do not judge as if you had the truth in your pocket, thanks.

I know that I'm a little off topic, but I had to write it...hope you understand, thanks.
Ok i think in my heart you are right, but if we can't discuss about fw or rw or whatever of the car we can close this forum rigth now. :roll:

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It's a forum, obviously we have to talk about something. I was referring to the way in which certain opinions are expressed, that's all! :)

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Dream Theater wrote:It's a forum, obviously we have to talk about something. I was referring to the way in which certain opinions are expressed, that's all! :)
I totally agree. Some people have a way of stating their own opinions as facts. Speculation is fine but it need to have some sort of theory behind it. Not just saying for instance "5 element FW is much better than 4 elements, because numbers!".

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AMUS reports that Alonso had the fastest top speed on day 2, 336.4 kph (into a slight headwind), which is 22 kph faster than in 2013. The McLaren was second at 330.2. Alonso may have been drafting when the top speed was recorded, but this would seem to indicate the Ferrari power unit is at least close to the Mercedes in peak power.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 87032.html

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f300v10 wrote:AMUS reports that Alonso had the fastest top speed on day 2, 336.4 kph (into a slight headwind), which is 22 kph faster than in 2013. The McLaren was second at 330.2. Alonso may have been drafting when the top speed was recorded, but this would seem to indicate the Ferrari power unit is at least close to the Mercedes in peak power.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 87032.html
In order to read much into those numbers does anyone know where is this speed trap located on the circuit, the same location as last year??
With regards to the power train it might be close to the mercedes in peak power, but you never know who is sandbagging..

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Coefficient wrote: Dear Dream Theater,

when I look at the nose of this car I want to "cover my eyes" but "so far or so it seems" the red team's "endless sacrifice" which until recently was "never enough" could finally see the team return to "the best of times". It was "only a matter of time" and looking at "the bigger picture" within Ferrari it is clear "the spirit carries on". The new regulations are a potential "hell's kitchen" but after the "nightmare to remember" of recent seasons, Maranello have earnt their "right of passage" and can now return to winning ways. :wink: :D
Well they certainly did Take the Time to sort the car last season.

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I was impressed with the levels of rake the Mercedes is running, but recently seeing some photos of the F14T and this video, it impresses me even more, they are at least as much, and I think even more rake.

I think Ferrari are going to surprise a lot of people when they put all the cards on the table. They are currently running with the more basic specc amongst the top teams (that front wing is almost silly), they have quietly gone about their business, amazing reliability... I have a gut feeling Ferrari will be in front in the first races.

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Rikhart wrote:
I was impressed with the levels of rake the Mercedes is running, but recently seeing some photos of the F14T and this video, it impresses me even more, they are at least as much, and I think even more rake.

I think Ferrari are going to surprise a lot of people when they put all the cards on the table. They are currently running with the more basic specc amongst the top teams (that front wing is almost silly), they have quietly gone about their business, amazing reliability... I have a gut feeling Ferrari will be in front in the first races.
I sincerely hope that Ferrari will win, but why they do not think is useful to test new aerodinamic parts 5 days before the start of the season? Are they so sure all the pieces will work? Wow =D>

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Winter Testing 2014 - Session 2, Day 3 - Bahrain (21.02.2014)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985