2014 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona

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should be a fun opening stint for the Mercs tomorrow, especially around the pitstop window.

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ringo wrote:Rosberg looking destroyed psychologically. He doesn't know what else he can do to beat Hamilton.
Monaco, Canada, Austria are cominh up.
All slow corner / stop and go tracks = Rosberg country

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Canada is Hamiltons track.
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Töm87 wrote:
ringo wrote:Rosberg looking destroyed psychologically. He doesn't know what else he can do to beat Hamilton.
Monaco, Canada, Austria are cominh up.
All slow corner / stop and go tracks = Rosberg country
Canada is not a Rosberg track, it's a Hamilton track. I expect Hamilton to be in a league of his own around there.
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Sevach wrote:
Shrieker wrote:
Juzh wrote:slipstream.
You need to have a look at the toro rosso's on that table. The engine's not that crap then, eh ?
I can barely believe the STR straight line speed, they put nearly 10 Kmh over the other Renault runners and even more over the draggy Red Bulls, their drag must be ridiculously low.
So in order to have any kind of top speed with the renault PU you have to shed off so much drag and downforce you're running 3 seconds off the pace. It was crap and it still is crap. red bull is the only representative car with renault engine, and it clearly shows how bad it is.
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Juzh wrote:2010 pole: 1:19.995
2014 pole: 1:25:232
Well done formula 1.
I thought there was a separate thread for whining about it? Tyres, blown diffuser, first season of big changes, heavier cars, f-duct(?Barcelona?) and it's not that surprising. Obligatory reasons: 1. Favourite driver is not doing well and/or 2. Rose-tinted nostalgia glasses. Yes 2010 was a classic season of Bahrain like one stoppers. Also obligatory: it's only fast cars racing for money and entertainment.
I don't give 2 sh1ts about the reasons it's so much slower or your supposed logic behind it. I was saying the same thing for years now, not just this year. Fact is they're slow as f##k and that's it. If not for blown/double diffusers and other stuff, then they should give them something else.
And RB6 didn't have f-duct in spain.
2014 season is so far turning out much more boring than 2010, so this plays absolutely no part.

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Töm87 wrote:
ringo wrote:Rosberg looking destroyed psychologically. He doesn't know what else he can do to beat Hamilton.
Monaco, Canada, Austria are cominh up.
All slow corner / stop and go tracks = Rosberg country
You have it the other way round my friend...
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well that's 5/5, nice!

Does anyone know what mclaren-honda achieved in 1988 with qualifying?
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De Jokke wrote:well that's 5/5, nice!

Does anyone know what mclaren-honda achieved in 1988 with qualifying?
15/16, just like the races (I believe it was the British GP, right?)

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mikeerfol wrote:
De Jokke wrote:well that's 5/5, nice!

Does anyone know what mclaren-honda achieved in 1988 with qualifying?
15/16, just like the races (I believe it was the British GP, right?)
I believe he meant qualifying, and if I'm correct they had 13/16 poles that year.
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mikeerfol wrote:
De Jokke wrote:well that's 5/5, nice!

Does anyone know what mclaren-honda achieved in 1988 with qualifying?
15/16, just like the races (I believe it was the British GP, right?)
Correct man,just skipped through a season review of '88.

15/16 poles with 12 front row lock-outs.
(British GP: not on pole).

thx

EDIT: can merc get 16 poles this year ??
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Hamilton can get all the remaining poles if he doesn't hit trouble. As strange as it may sound, Rosberg's have only been on the front row just two times out of five this season. So, if Hamilton drops the ball or has a mechanical, there's a good chance someone else will snatch the pole.
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Juzh wrote:
Sevach wrote:
Shrieker wrote:
You need to have a look at the toro rosso's on that table. The engine's not that crap then, eh ?
I can barely believe the STR straight line speed, they put nearly 10 Kmh over the other Renault runners and even more over the draggy Red Bulls, their drag must be ridiculously low.
Those 10km/h over the other Renault runners it`s STR`s strategy with a low down-force setup rather than a draggy RB10, don`t you think mate? :)
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So will Mercedes split the drivers strategies maybe:

Lewis: M/M/H Or M/M/M/H
Nico: M/H/M Or M/M/H

Just to mix things up, because one driver is always going to be a step behind if they take the same, the lead car will always get priority with the first stops if they are running close together and I doubt we're going to see a challenge from behind?
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Its a pain to see the cars on hot laps nowadays they are visually now fast on corners can't imagine the frustration that drivers are having now. Hope there isn't a train situation going since the last corner following other cars was already tough (though the chicane helped since 2008) but now even getting there with clear track is tough and I don't think DRS will be much effective around here.

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gray41 wrote:So will Mercedes split the drivers strategies maybe:

Lewis: M/M/H Or M/M/M/H
Nico: M/H/M Or M/M/H

Just to mix things up, because one driver is always going to be a step behind if they take the same, the lead car will always get priority with the first stops if they are running close together and I doubt we're going to see a challenge from behind?
I think it would be more like:

Lead car: MMH or MMMH
2nd car: MMH or MHM(M)

Point being that in Bahrain they made strats for whoever was leading and whoever was 2nd, not specific strats for Lewis and Nico. Seems the best way to go as no other teams can challenge them and they have no idea who will lead after the 1st turn.