2016 Grand Prix of Mexico - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 28-30 October

[Shrieker]

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Yeah, would have been great if VES would have crowded ROS into a gravel pit.

Yeah, that is a big problem.

[turbof1]

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Yeah, would have been great if VES would have crowded ROS into a gravel pit.

Yeah, that is a big problem.

Not necessarily. You can put the gravel pit deeper into the off track area, with its borders having asphalt. It would still punish drivers who do cut the corner completely.

[komninosm]

Seb did a great race.
Hard fights are ok, but should kept fair. Avoiding being overtaken with shortcuts through grass is not fair.

Maybe the old man is right. Put some concrete walls in the corners.

Yeah, let's kill some more drivers YEEHAA!

[turbof1]

Please stay calm, guys...
https://twitter.com/adamcooperF1/status ... 6943674368

[langwadt]

Seb did a great race.
Hard fights are ok, but should kept fair. Avoiding being overtaken with shortcuts through grass is not fair.

Maybe the old man is right. Put some concrete walls in the corners.

Yeah, let's kill some more drivers YEEHAA!

like in Monaco?

adding walls would be silly, but using the transponders and making going off track a mandatory drive-through would be easy

[Sniffit]

Seb did a great race.
Hard fights are ok, but should kept fair. Avoiding being overtaken with shortcuts through grass is not fair.

Maybe the old man is right. Put some concrete walls in the corners.

Yeah, let's kill some more drivers YEEHAA!

like in Monaco?

adding walls would be silly, but using the transponders and making going off track a mandatory drive-through would be easy

Wouldn't work, it would still come down to stewards ruling one way or the other. The driver might have been forced to take evasive action, been forced of the track etc etc

[Sniffit]

And Vettel lost the podium..
http://m.crash.net/f1/news/234913/1/vet ... fence.html

[Powy]

https://twitter.com/F1/status/792878668737490945

[ecapox]

And Vettel lost the podium..
http://m.crash.net/f1/news/234913/1/vet ... fence.html

I dong even know what is going on anymore. Thankfully the year is over. Don't care who wins WDC.

I fear the inconsistencies are due to having different stewards at each race. They should do away with that and have 3 or 4 set people for the entire year. Maybe then we have some consistent rule enforcement.

[langwadt]

Yeah, let's kill some more drivers YEEHAA!

like in Monaco?

adding walls would be silly, but using the transponders and making going off track a mandatory drive-through would be easy

Wouldn't work, it would still come down to stewards ruling one way or the other. The driver might have been forced to take evasive action, been forced of the track etc etc

In the old days I don't think gravel traps and walls moved out of the way, when it was a driver that was forced to take evasive action or had be forced of track

I think it would sort itself out, it is easy to force someone of track if there is little consequence for yielding

[iotar__]

So now they're investigated Vettel, didn't notice earlier ? There's your clarification. So why not Hamilton then? You know they're cheating when they don't even investigate, just like Verstappen's previous ones.

Hamilton "I didn't gain anything" . Not true, it looks just silly on replays - one car sped up x2 the others in slow motion, silent movie scene . No attempt to stay on track or to come back at the first occasion, outbraked himself, locked tyres so full throttle and the shortest distance = that's a gain, plus saved tyres, brakes. Alternative slowing down and losing position(s) - that would be the loss.

At the start they should have been investigating not Rosberg for going off but Verstappen for pushing off. One trick pony move, crash or go off, didn't even attempt to make a clean move. Rosberg was smart to slow down while being clearly in front and take the corner easily. If he hadn't Verstappen would have most likely rammed into him sideways Alonso style. Primitive inside moves, outbrake yourself and drive across (turning means slowing down) into others.

[ringo]

I think the random severity in stewardship is fun. Just part of the sport which we should just deal with.
I don't have any issues with any of the incidents today though. Hamilton into turn 1 was ok. No one near to him challenging position, and of course it's lap1. Everyone was caught out by the lack of grip.
No reason or point for lewis to give a position to anyone behind. In fact no one has any reason to relinquish positions on the first lap of a race unless they overtook off track.

As for Vettel he shouldn't be penalized for dangerous driving. I don't think Ric and Ves gave him much choice of movement.
He could have given more room, but i feel the penalty is more for his dirty mouth and his recent first lap cut ins which have knocked out a few cars including his teammate.

overall boring race. If Max was more experienced he would have made that move stick on Rosberg. That was the highpoint of the race outside of the ferrari sandwich in the last couple laps.

[ringo]

So now they're investigated Vettel, didn't notice earlier ? There's your clarification. So why not Hamilton then? You know they're cheating when they don't even investigate, just like Verstappen's previous ones.

Hamilton "I didn't gain anything" . Not true, it looks just silly on replays - one car sped up x2 the others in slow motion, silent movie scene . No attempt to stay on track or to come back at the first occasion, outbraked himself, locked tyres so full throttle and the shortest distance = that's a gain, plus saved tyres, brakes. Alternative slowing down and losing position(s) - that would be the loss.

At the start they should have been investigating not Rosberg for going off but Verstappen for pushing off. One trick pony move, crash or go off, didn't even attempt to make a clean move. Rosberg was smart to slow down while being clearly in front and take the corner easily. If he hadn't Verstappen would have most likely rammed into him sideways Alonso style. Primitive inside moves, outbrake yourself and drive across (turning means slowing down) into others.

It's the first lap man. The grip is an unknown, and there is too much chaos to give back anything. What do you expect lewis to do, wait till 10 cars pass to rejoin on the track?
Racing has always been like this, you enter into the turn unchallenged, you go off track, you can rejoin unchallenged. Pretty straight forward. Ricciardo just brought lewis into the argument because he has sour grapes over not being on the podium.

[Nathanael F1]

So Vettel defends hard against Ricciardo and is given a super harsh 10 second penalty. I hate the steward penalty decision system - it's like they just do whatever they feel like that day. We've seen so many incidents where Verstappen ran other drivers off the road and erratically moved under braking and didn't get penalized. Vettel didn't do either to nearly the same extent.

[Shooty81]

What crazy decisions by the stewards. Unbelievable.