Lewis Hamilton completed a faultless Mexican Grand Prix to take the win unthreatened. Nico Rosberg did get under fire from time to time, but held it together to finish second. Vettel completed the podium following a penalty for Verstappen, although he too was later demoted, handing the remaining podium position to Daniel Ricciardo.
And I will say welcome back to the 2000s where the only "overtakes" in Barcelona( for example) were in the pits.GPR-A wrote:.
Even on a track with longest straight, it is impossible to overtake when cars have as much as half a second pace difference. I can't imagine the scene next year with much faster cars. Circuits like Australia, Spain, Hungary would kill the viewers with Greatest boredom ever.
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This is ridiculous, really. But I guess FIA has reacted in this way as a response to Vettel´s harsh words.
I dont understand what is going on with Nico. One thing is to be cautious but he is going much slower than in the previous races. He is playing with fire because Vestappen put him under a gret pressure. His defense was great but really, cant he go faster?Shrieker wrote:After the race Hamilton said his flat spot at the beginning was so bad he could not see the braking point into T1, and that he was worried the suspension would break. And yet, he was healthily pulling a gap on Rosberg. Makes one wonder whether Rosberg's engine these last 2 races have been turned down. Like, a lot.
True, and that penaly would have done Verstappen´s penaly logic. Was that difficult to the stewards to act with some logic?ClarkBT11 wrote:
Ricciardo's interview after the race I agree with what he says, Ric should get promoted to third.
I'm a Hamilton supporter but I wouldn't of been surprised or against for him to get a penalty for the first corner incident. He would only of received a five second penalty which wouldn't make much of a difference because he would of been able to stretch is lead and keep his position.
You've clearly never left the track in a car at high velocity have you? You are aware that it's slippery right and that when you hit such a surface, it's best to go straight and not make any erratic movements which might cause your car to possibly spin?Henk wrote:When you brake 10 meters late, nobody can outbrake you. The first turn in a race is an overtaking opportunity. Gaining an advantage means not losing out when you should have. I would have accepted a 5 sec penalty but he really should have tried to get back on the track before turn 2.cooken wrote: Hamilton had a fully fuel loaded car going into T1 with unknown grip and a glazed brake, and nobody was close enough to attempt a pass. He then locked up big time and was going way too fast to be able to slow down and get back on track to make T2. This was evidenced by his turn in attempt where he seemed to get a bit of oversteer and had to correct, then ran out of room.
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I agree the incident with Vettel and Ricciardo would never of happened had Verstappen done what his team told him to do and give the position to Vettel. Riccardo would of more than likely overtaken both in the end.Vasconia wrote:True, and that penaly would have done Verstappen´s penaly logic. Was that difficult to the stewards to act with some logic?ClarkBT11 wrote:
Ricciardo's interview after the race I agree with what he says, Ric should get promoted to third.
I'm a Hamilton supporter but I wouldn't of been surprised or against for him to get a penalty for the first corner incident. He would only of received a five second penalty which wouldn't make much of a difference because he would of been able to stretch is lead and keep his position.
Ricciardo is probably right but he could attack Sebastian because Vestappen didn give him the position. I dont think this was fair. We are talking about a situation that only happened because Verstappen didnt do what he had to do.
For longest time I remember watching F1, the first corner of the first lap incidents have been an exception to the rule, as long as there is no contact. That is the most exciting part of the whole race. We have seen many incidents of overrunning in the first corner. As for overrunning in a corner, I have never seen any penalty when a car ahead breaches the braking zone and cuts a corner, except for a track limits warning. The rules have been applied when there are two cars side by side.Tim.Wright wrote:I think everyones issue is that he traversed the T1, T2, T3 complex faster than anyone else by bypassing the track and in doing so managed to completely negate the effect of his error in terms of time and track position.
yep, and to see people comparing VES incident with HAM's start shows what a truley warped perception some people have.GPR-A wrote:For longest time I remember watching F1, the first corner of the first lap incidents have been an exception to the rule, as long as there is no contact. That is the most exciting part of the whole race. We have seen many incidents of overrunning in the first corner. As for overrunning in a corner, I have never seen any penalty when a car ahead breaches the braking zone and cuts a corner, except for a track limits warning. The rules have been applied when there are two cars side by side.Tim.Wright wrote:I think everyones issue is that he traversed the T1, T2, T3 complex faster than anyone else by bypassing the track and in doing so managed to completely negate the effect of his error in terms of time and track position.
yes, but then he would receive a penalty. this way "nothing happened"FrukostScones wrote:http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/hi ... 0.bild.jpg
Yeah, would have been great if VES would have crowded ROS into a gravel pit.
That may be true, but what people are missing is that when he left the track at that speed, he was effectively a by-passenger and had no means to simply stop and return to the track in what these people would deem to be fair or appropriate. If there was a wall, he'd have crashed.Tim.Wright wrote:I think everyones issue is that he traversed the T1, T2, T3 complex faster than anyone else by bypassing the track and in doing so managed to completely negate the effect of his error in terms of time and track position.
