2017 Monaco Grand Prix, Monte Carlo, 26-28 May

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
18 May 2017, 00:15
dans79 wrote:
17 May 2017, 01:19
I'd like to see a strait forward race, no weather, vsc or sc, so we can get a clearer view of the pecking order.
That was Barcelona my friend.
Nah, I think the VSC skewed the race.
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As a neutral fan, I'd personally love a rainy Monaco, with a mayhem of (none-injuring) crashes and a random driver claiming victory after a heroic race.
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turbof1 wrote:
18 May 2017, 15:11
As a neutral fan, I'd personally love a rainy Monaco, with a mayhem of (none-injuring) crashes and a random driver claiming victory after a heroic race.
Did you say 1996? :mrgreen:

That one was awesome, if I am not wrong only 6 cars ended the race.

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Ideally the 6 front runners should knock off their front wings on the first lap which brings out a safety car. All 6 cars have their wings replaced but start near the back of the pack. Can this be my prediction? Winner? I don't care
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@F1Krof, this lap reminded me of that great lap of Kubica, in 2010, when he almost got pole while driving a Renault car.

As I said on the Spanish GP thread, RB was behind pole by similar gaps on 2016 and 2017, so that hints that they can indeed be closer at Monaco. I'm not expecting them to fight for pole this time but they might split the typical lock of the first two rows by the Mercedes and Ferraris. If Kimi and Bottas underperform, I think it's possible to see a RB, or both, beating them.

I think we'll see lot's of crashes. Maybe not in the race but at least on FPs. With Stroll, Palmer, Grosjean(fast but error prone), Magnussen, and others, on the grid, crashing is always at stakes.

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Vasconia wrote:
18 May 2017, 15:23
turbof1 wrote:
18 May 2017, 15:11
As a neutral fan, I'd personally love a rainy Monaco, with a mayhem of (none-injuring) crashes and a random driver claiming victory after a heroic race.
Did you say 1996? :mrgreen:

That one was awesome, if I am not wrong only 6 cars ended the race.
I think 4 crossed the line, a couple crashed late enough to still be classified.

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f1316 wrote:
18 May 2017, 08:41
PlatinumZealot wrote:
18 May 2017, 00:15
dans79 wrote:
17 May 2017, 01:19
I'd like to see a strait forward race, no weather, vsc or sc, so we can get a clearer view of the pecking order.
That was Barcelona my friend.
No VSC and everyone's clear on the pecking order?
After 14 laps... we pretty much had a good idea of the race pace of the cars. Even out of position cars.
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With wider cars, it's gonna be a bin-fest!

List of drivers who will crash..
Verstappen
Vettel - taken out by car #7 who gets bumped by Mad max first corner Two Mercs scamper off from front row.
Raikkonen
Stroll - crashes into one of Sauber round the back
Massa
Palmer
Grosjean
Ericsson
Ocon
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At this point on the track will be so clear that these survivors will enjoy a leisurely procession to the end of the race:

Hamilton
Bottas
Button (gets on the podium - who knew the McLaren Chassis and tyre management was better than the Red-Bull?)
Ricciardo
Vandoorne
Perez
Sainz
Hulkenburg
Wehrlein
Magnussen
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Just as a reminder, there is no Friday practice in Monaco, and instead it's moved over to Thursday.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
18 May 2017, 22:44
f1316 wrote:
18 May 2017, 08:41
PlatinumZealot wrote:
18 May 2017, 00:15


That was Barcelona my friend.
No VSC and everyone's clear on the pecking order?
After 14 laps... we pretty much had a good idea of the race pace of the cars. Even out of position cars.
Well Hamilton and Vettel have both said they think they have the faster package - and opinion amongst journalists and commentators is also split (Brundle, for example, saying he disagreed with most people he spoke to and thought Vettel had the better pace) - so really not sure it's clear.

I personally think the Mercedes still holds a slight advantage but I think the nature of tyre strategies and VSC interference made it very difficult to have a good idea based on the data.

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Given what seems like good performance of the McLaren chassis, how fast do we think they'll be in Monaco?

My feeling is that 7/8 on the grid [edit: didn't realise Stoffel had a grid penalty when I wrote this] is eminently achievable from car, but worry slightly that their driver combo - a rookie and a guy pulled out of retirement - might not make the most of the package.

If Alonso was racing, I might even be tempted to suggest he could get close to the RB's but maybe that's a stretch.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
18 May 2017, 22:51
With wider cars, it's gonna be a bin-fest!

List of drivers who will crash..
Verstappen
Vettel - taken out by car #7 who gets bumped by Mad max first corner Two Mercs scamper off from front row.
Raikkonen
Stroll - crashes into one of Sauber round the back
Massa
Palmer
Grosjean
Ericsson
Ocon
Kyvat

At this point on the track will be so clear that these survivors will enjoy a leisurely procession to the end of the race:

Hamilton
Bottas
Button (gets on the podium - who knew the McLaren Chassis and tyre management was better than the Red-Bull?)
Ricciardo
Vandoorne
Perez
Sainz
Hulkenburg
Wehrlein
Magnussen
I am putting Vettel on Pole and think the Mercs will crash, similar to the Bottas push in Spain. If he can take out 2 competitors with 1 small mistake, think about what he can do in Monaca ;)

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Raikkonen will get pole and the racewin.
Thank you really doesn't really describe enough what I feel. - Vettel

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AnthonyG wrote:
19 May 2017, 11:15
Raikkonen will get pole and the racewin.
Isn't Monaco one of Raikkonen worst races?

Nice post from Fulcrum on this topic: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=26386#p697315

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