2018 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 27-29

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falonso81 wrote:
01 May 2018, 22:46
George-Jung wrote:
01 May 2018, 22:05
flmkane wrote:
01 May 2018, 21:48
Back when Hamilton behaved like this in 2011, people criticized him in the same manner.
And look how that turned out..
Well, lets see. He got his 1st title gifted to him by Ferrari. His other 3 titles gifted to him by a dominant car. He even lost 1 title to Rosberg. Oh pls, half the grid would have 4 titles if they drove the cars Hamilton had.
If Hamilton was a little bit more lucky he would have "6" titles right now.

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falonso81 wrote:
01 May 2018, 22:46
Well, lets see. He got his 1st title gifted to him by Ferrari. His other 3 titles gifted to him by a dominant car. He even lost 1 title to Rosberg. Oh pls, half the grid would have 4 titles if they drove the cars Hamilton had.
My deepest sympathy is with you man. I can't imagine your bu** hurt pain of watching a driver who you hate so much, winning almost every race and championships, day in and day out. You might not even be switching on the TV right?

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George-Jung wrote:
01 May 2018, 22:05
flmkane wrote:
01 May 2018, 21:48
Back when Hamilton behaved like this in 2011, people criticized him in the same manner.
And look how that turned out..

Verstappen needs to balance out his aggressiveness, some actions you only do at the start, some in the last lap or 2.. and some during the race.

Once he has mastered that skill, he’s gone..
Actually, i agree with you 100%

But 2011 Hamilton was already a champion so it was even more bone headed for him to mess up the way he did back then.

However, the younger Lewis had a much better attitude than current Max. Current Max is like a cheap knockoff version of 2008-2009 Vettel.

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flmkane wrote:
02 May 2018, 05:45
George-Jung wrote:
01 May 2018, 22:05
flmkane wrote:
01 May 2018, 21:48
Back when Hamilton behaved like this in 2011, people criticized him in the same manner.
And look how that turned out..

Verstappen needs to balance out his aggressiveness, some actions you only do at the start, some in the last lap or 2.. and some during the race.

Once he has mastered that skill, he’s gone..
Actually, i agree with you 100%

But 2011 Hamilton was already a champion so it was even more bone headed for him to mess up the way he did back then.

However, the younger Lewis had a much better attitude than current Max. Current Max is like a cheap knockoff version of 2008-2009 Vettel.
hahaa well put.

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Here an interview with Max, where he admits his fault.

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There seems to be a pervading narrative that Bottas ‘deserved’ to win in Baku - some even going so far as to suggest he ‘should have won’ the last three races.

Whilst I do actually think he would have had a decent shot at victory in Baku even without the SC, given his tyre offset - so I certainly don’t think his victory would have been undeserved given the SC almost gifted it to him - I think we should recognise that Vettel was in the pound seats without the safety car; he was primarily the one who was ‘unlucky’ prior to the debris for Bottas, just as Hamilton was ‘unlucky’ in Melbourne through no fault of his own. Lewis was probably more prudent in not having a lunge in Australia, but he also didn’t get the same kind of a sniff that Seb did, given the track layout.

We should be very clear that the fastest package - not just in quali but also the race - has been the Seb/Ferrari one, and in terms of the way he’s driving the car (as opposed to Ferrari’s strategy) he has been the driver who ‘deserved’ to win the races (all bar the first one) if given the correct strategy by his team.

If judged purely on how quickly the driver drove his car, we’d be looking at one win for Lewis and three for Seb.

Just feel as if that’s being lost in the overwhelming sentiment of praise from Bottas (which I grant he has driven very well since his mistake in Q3 Melbourne).

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NathanOlder wrote:
01 May 2018, 22:51
falonso81 wrote:
01 May 2018, 22:46
George-Jung wrote:
01 May 2018, 22:05

And look how that turned out..
Well, lets see. He got his 1st title gifted to him by Ferrari. His other 3 titles gifted to him by a dominant car. He even lost 1 title to Rosberg. Oh pls, half the grid would have 4 titles if they drove the cars Hamilton had.
joking right ? haters gotta hate. You are sooooo wrong.

half the field would have 4 titles if they drove the cars Alonso had :lol: (this IS a joke, but its at the same level as your joke)
What, I don't get to have my opinion? Did he or didn't he won the title in 2008 because of Ferrari shooting themselves on the foot? Massa, a mediocre driver had the 2008 title in his bag because he had a very strong car. I can name some other mediocre drivers that won a title just because they were in the right car at the right time. As for his Mercedes years, he made the right choice. Merc was an attractive option, maybe the only one he had at the time. Anyway, I am way off-topic. We can discuss this in private.

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https://youtu.be/YRGORAxovXg

No penalty for the driver. Excuse " i couldnt see him"

look at his mirrors compared to the toro rosso they are all over the place.

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maxxer wrote:
02 May 2018, 12:54
https://youtu.be/YRGORAxovXg

No penalty for the driver. Excuse " i couldnt see him"

look at his mirrors compared to the toro rosso they are all over the place.
My God, that’s unbelievable.

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maxxer wrote:
02 May 2018, 12:54
https://youtu.be/YRGORAxovXg

No penalty for the driver. Excuse " i couldnt see him"

look at his mirrors compared to the toro rosso they are all over the place.
Look K-mag's head though. He looks to the left to see the Toro Rosso before he moves across.

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bonjon1979 wrote:
02 May 2018, 13:45
maxxer wrote:
02 May 2018, 12:54
https://youtu.be/YRGORAxovXg

No penalty for the driver. Excuse " i couldnt see him"

look at his mirrors compared to the toro rosso they are all over the place.
Look K-mag's head though. He looks to the left to see the Toro Rosso before he moves across.
Ericsson destroyed his car's rear view mirror on lap 1

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiPtwSshFCh/

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itwasntme wrote:
02 May 2018, 14:14
bonjon1979 wrote:
02 May 2018, 13:45
maxxer wrote:
02 May 2018, 12:54
https://youtu.be/YRGORAxovXg

No penalty for the driver. Excuse " i couldnt see him"

look at his mirrors compared to the toro rosso they are all over the place.
Look K-mag's head though. He looks to the left to see the Toro Rosso before he moves across.
Ericsson destroyed his car's rear view mirror on lap 1

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiPtwSshFCh/
I suggest you look at the Higher definition version on the Skysports site. You can clearly see that the while they might be shaking you can see the reflection in the mirror. Also watch closely at K-Mags head, as he rounds the corner on to the straight he looks across at his left mirror and then moves across. Down the straight he keeps looking to the left mirror and then back straight. It's plain to see that he's looking in his mirror.

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bonjon1979 wrote:
02 May 2018, 14:21
itwasntme wrote:
02 May 2018, 14:14
bonjon1979 wrote:
02 May 2018, 13:45


Look K-mag's head though. He looks to the left to see the Toro Rosso before he moves across.
Ericsson destroyed his car's rear view mirror on lap 1

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiPtwSshFCh/
Your video shows a chunk being taken out of the floor but you can still see the mirror is on Mags car, all be it a little wobbly.

I suggest you look at the Higher definition version on the Skysports site. You can clearly see that the while they might be shaking you can see the reflection in the mirror. Also watch closely at K-Mags head, as he rounds the corner on to the straight he looks across at his left mirror and then moves across. Down the straight he keeps looking to the left mirror and then back straight. It's plain to see that he's looking in his mirror.

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bonjon1979 wrote:
02 May 2018, 14:21
itwasntme wrote:
02 May 2018, 14:14
bonjon1979 wrote:
02 May 2018, 13:45


Look K-mag's head though. He looks to the left to see the Toro Rosso before he moves across.
Ericsson destroyed his car's rear view mirror on lap 1

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiPtwSshFCh/
I suggest you look at the Higher definition version on the Skysports site. You can clearly see that the while they might be shaking you can see the reflection in the mirror. Also watch closely at K-Mags head, as he rounds the corner on to the straight he looks across at his left mirror and then moves across. Down the straight he keeps looking to the left mirror and then back straight. It's plain to see that he's looking in his mirror.
You're right. Sorry

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falonso81 wrote:
02 May 2018, 10:50
What, I don't get to have my opinion? Did he or didn't he won the title in 2008 because of Ferrari shooting themselves on the foot? Massa, a mediocre driver had the 2008 title in his bag because he had a very strong car.
Sounds a lot like 2017. It's been a long dry spell, hopefully this year.
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