2018 Monaco Grand Prix, Monte Carlo, May 24-27

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J.A.W. wrote:
28 May 2018, 07:35
Verstappen has 3 wheels off-track,
You only need one wheel "on the track" to be legal. Max learnt that against Kimi last season...
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Yeah, but we haven't yet seen the reverse angle shot.. maybe his 4th wheel was airborne.. & then its.. a steward's call..

& we well know.. that most of 'Emperor Maximilian's luck' - is seemingly well tied up - in that particular sphere of influence..
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"

Ed Hilary on being 1st to top Mt Everest,
(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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J.A.W. wrote:
28 May 2018, 10:30
Yeah, but we haven't yet seen the reverse angle shot.. maybe his 4th wheel was airborne.. & then its.. a steward's call..

& we well know.. that most of 'Emperor Maximilian's luck' - is seemingly well tied up - in that particular sphere of influence..
"maybe his 4th wheel was airborne" :lol: . Dear god, teams trying to look for loopholes is already bad enough, stewards doing the same will make it chaos!

they'll probably project an airborn wheel straight down on the circuit, meaning you can have it 10km up in the sky, but it'll still be considered on the track if it is within the boundaries looking straight down.
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I haven't watched the race, but by the news, i guess i didn't loose a big show. Alonso even says that this was the most boring race ever. But i saw the hightlights of F2 race, and it was a nice race. Are the F1 cars, to big for the streets of Monaco?

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santos wrote:
28 May 2018, 10:54
I haven't watched the race, but by the news, i guess i didn't loose a big show. Alonso even says that this was the most boring race ever. But i saw the hightlights of F2 race, and it was a nice race. Are the F1 cars, to big for the streets of Monaco?
In all honesty, no. It's not like they aren't able to take the corners, and overtaking was not hindered by the size as Verstappen duly showed.

Running in dirty air is the primary concern.
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I don't know if anybody mentioned this, but Vettel is in trully astonishing qualifying form :shock:

2018 Monaco GP – Vettel perfect in Q3 for the sixth time in a row

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J.A.W. wrote:
28 May 2018, 10:30
Yeah, but we haven't yet seen the reverse angle shot.. maybe his 4th wheel was airborne.. & then its.. a steward's call..

& we well know.. that most of 'Emperor Maximilian's luck' - is seemingly well tied up - in that particular sphere of influence..
By god, you VES-dislikers never give up.. It was a pretty good pass round the outside. He had enough sense to 1. not cut the chicane and 2. block SAI in the process. Maybe scorn some other drivers for driving so conservatively..

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santos wrote:
28 May 2018, 10:54
I haven't watched the race, but by the news, i guess i didn't loose a big show. Alonso even says that this was the most boring race ever. But i saw the hightlights of F2 race, and it was a nice race. Are the F1 cars, to big for the streets of Monaco?
ALO says a lot nowadays, a moaning bitter grump he has become.
I guess he won't stay at McLaren to leave for Renault.
And we all know what that means :mrgreen:
Apart from dirty air the Pirelli tires are, were and will be sh*t and ruin racing.
Hopefully Michelin will end this in 2020/2021, even if they come with the hoorendous 18" wheels, yuck.
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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TwanV wrote:
28 May 2018, 11:35
J.A.W. wrote:
28 May 2018, 10:30
Yeah, but we haven't yet seen the reverse angle shot.. maybe his 4th wheel was airborne.. & then its.. a steward's call..

& we well know.. that most of 'Emperor Maximilian's luck' - is seemingly well tied up - in that particular sphere of influence..
By god, you VES-dislikers never give up.. It was a pretty good pass round the outside. He had enough sense to 1. not cut the chicane and 2. block SAI in the process. Maybe scorn some other drivers for driving so conservatively..

Hey, I ain't one of them Max "dislikers" , I find his steward's carte blanche - line-stepping shennanigans - highly entertaining..

But as - brilliant comedian Bill Hicks - put it so well..

"Its always funny.. 'til someone gets hurt.. then its.. f--king hilarious."
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"

Ed Hilary on being 1st to top Mt Everest,
(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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FrukostScones wrote:
28 May 2018, 11:43
a moaning bitter grump he has become.
Yoda, you are, hmmmm :lol:
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CriXus wrote:
27 May 2018, 22:52
Some guy has posted on reddit possible changes to track layout to improve the racing.
Variant 1
Variant 2
Although the second variant is better - due to the tight hairpin – unfortunately those secondary roads are too narrow … instead of that they could put in place a chicane acting like a hairpin in turn 8 – Portier – putting a premium on the mechanical side of the car (like tight turn 4 at Nürburgring):

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At the Anthony Noghes - turn 19 - they could do the same tight hairpin philosophy:

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And the last track alteration could be at the Casino turn 4, when they should go left to a short straight fallowed by a 90-degree right hander just to have a longer straight down to Mirabeau Haute – turn 5 – and make a possible pass here:

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Maybe this is an obvious answer or already discussed.

Why not take away the chicane after the tunnel and run it straight to the end?

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Actually I think if Ferrari would have pitted RAI lap 14 he could have jumped HAM.
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/1548 ... in-monaco/

If this was made between Seb and Charles Leclerc… it would be talked for years. Does FIA have a sensor to this?

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santos wrote:
28 May 2018, 14:47
https://www.gpfans.com/en/articles/1548 ... in-monaco/

If this was made between Seb and Charles Leclerc… it would be talked for years.
The original article appears to claim that all team orders are illegal (which shows a slightly worrying grasp of F1) but, assuming it's accurate, this is pretty sad for the sport. Is it just Ocon? Or is it everyone who drives for Force India? I know there's always been suspicion but to have it confirmed and in such an offhand manner... :(
santos wrote:
28 May 2018, 14:47
Does FIA have a sensor to this?
As far as I'm aware, there's no regulations about asking other teams to do stuff so equating the two would be a mistake.

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