Fulcrum wrote: ↑01 Oct 2018, 10:19
komninosm wrote: ↑01 Oct 2018, 07:33
I don't want to go too much off topic, but I'll give you two examples before and after Baku.
Remember last race when Rai was leading and Hamilton passed Vettel at the first corners after the start and Vettel wouldn't concede properly and crashed into Hamilton?
Remember several years ago when Vettel and Hamilton were in the pits side by side and Vettel tried to push Hamilton into pit crews instead of giving him space?
Vettel is a dirty driver, remember what he did to Webber?
Vettel and Ferrari were a good match...
Remember last race when Rai was leading and Hamilton passed Vettel at the first corners after the start and Vettel wouldn't concede properly and crashed into Hamilton?
The last race was Singapore, and very little of what you refer to - other than Raikkonen leading for a few laps - actually happened. So I guess you mean Monza? To describe their contact as a 'crash' is, again, pure hyperbole.
Remember several years ago when Vettel and Hamilton were in the pits side by side and Vettel tried to push Hamilton into pit crews instead of giving him space?
You mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEW_9A0z1TU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BPNqKASFRQ
Hamilton didn't seem too concerned.
As far as I'm concerned, I thought it was okay,' said Hamilton. 'The team were waiting for quite some time and they waited until it was the right time; but as I came out I noticed Sebastian was there - he was pushing me a little bit to the right and we pushed wheels. Other than that, it was fair.'
Vettel, meanwhile, felt Hamilton was at fault for the incident. 'At the stop I was ahead; I don't know why he pulled to the left and was keen to touch me,' said the German.
Vettel is a dirty driver, remember what he did to Webber?
Turkey 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx9zIQvrdZU
Vettel's fault for sure. Dirty? No, just stupid.
Malaysia 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU_G4fEpaCQ
Not obeying team orders, but notice it is Webber almost putting Vettel in the wall.
Perhaps you'd like to expand on your list of grievances with Vettel, this is a forum after all.
I don't like omnislashing and I don't have time for wasting about like you so here's a small recap.
You asked for other occurrences and I gave you some.
You gave very poor excuses.
Yes, it was Monza and yes it was a crash. Vettel crashed into Hamilton. He was very lucky not to cause double DNF. Still makes my argument good.
The pit incident is extremely clear and Vettel lies or Hamilton being over it and not wanting to make a fuss over the obvious doesn't change the truth.
You can see in the second video you linked how Vettel veers to the right instead of giving space as he should and the tires making contact. If the cars had spun out it would cause injuries in the pits.
Again Vettel being a dangerous dick.
You even show that Vettel did bad stuff to Webber, you just give excuses and excuses. Vettel was both stupid and dirty. It's clear for all without bias.
I don't like to expand my list of Vettel dirty stupidities. I already told you not to go off topic much. But since you tried to put a lame defense like that, I saw it fit to use your own evidence against your poor case.
Sorry.